The best ideology

[waidizss]

Lately(a couple of years now) i have been wondering, writing down, thinking and talking about the perfect ideology and now i'm here asking for you to help me. All ideas are welcome.
For starters i based on communism. Anti-nationalism, anti-racism, anti-religion, anti-capitalism. I have been thinking how to motivate people, like let's say if you achieve a lot you get bonuses. Money as a value would be abolished. everthing is payed by a card. Such values as greed, family, god are obsolete( due to the new structure of society which would require some casualties). The new values would be to help others and stuff. Of course for this to work someone would need to unite the world under one flag. All land would belong to the state. Efficient bureaucracy would be a necessity.

[Tiberios]

There is no perfect ideology.

[The Dude]

I love this, it's so wonderfully naive. It's hilarious how your ideology is just a mashup of words you've learned over the years. But keep at it, when you get older you'll be able to look back on this post and have a good laugh

[waidizss]

sorry for being an idealist

[The Dude]

sorry for being an idealist

You seem sincere, so I'll give you my commentary on your ideology to do you a favour. When I was your age, and Croccer too it seems, I too was a far leftist and I thought communism was the best idea ever and revolution sounded like a bloody amazing idea to get things done.

Eight years later I realise it's a bunch of silliness, and back then I thought that everyone who told me this was just bitter with old age and couldn't understand the greatness of my idealistic vision. Funny stuff.

Anyway, here's what I've got for you (keep in mind this is all constructive criticism intended to teach you a few things):

Anti-nationalism, anti-racism, anti-religion, anti-capitalism.

You can't run an ideology based on things that it is against. This is what a lot of populists these day for example, they are against a whole load of things that are happening and thats what they base their party around. Let's think this through to conclusion: if an ideology is against a bunch of things, what's it going to do when its accomplished what it set out to do? If you're anti-something, you are relevant only as long as that thing you are against actually exists.

I have been thinking how to motivate people, like let's say if you achieve a lot you get bonuses.

This seems like an odd thing to say immediately after starting off by saying that you're against a bunch of stuff. But fair enough. If you achieve a lot you get a lot of bonuses? What does that mean? You just said you were anti-capitalism. So where's that thinking taking you? Big contradiction here.

Money as a value would be abolished. everthing is payed by a card.

So there will still be money except it will be digital. You realise that the existence of digital money these days is part of what economists point out as a problem with capitalism right? Because there exist massive virtual debts that can't even be expressed with hard cash. So again, you're anti-capitalism but then still want to head in a direction where real money is no longer used and everything's digital. Doesn't work that way.

Such values as greed, family, god are obsolete( due to the new structure of society which would require some casualties).

So you want to motivate people by giving them money from creditcards in your perfect anticapitalist world, but then if people get greedy for this virtual cash they have to do. I see. You realise that doesn't work at all. You think greed is related to the ideology of a country? Mate, you could throw six cavemen a bone and see what happens. Greed exists everywhere, you can't abolish it. Family? Now you're touching on a subject that I think goes way above your head for now, namely the nature of human beings. How we are individuals but require a collective to survive both mentally and physically.

God? Oh, man. I don't even want to go into this one at all right now. So in your perfect, anti-capitalist and anti-religious nation where nobody would be a racist ever, you'd be killed for being greedy, loving your family or believing in god (believing in god and being religious are not the same thing by the way). This is more and more starting to look like Joseph Stalin meets International Banking and a lot less like the perfect ideology. But again, you're still young so it's ok.

The new values would be to help others and stuff.

Help others and stuff. Perfect ideologies have perfect descriptions And stuff doesn't cut it. Helping others is already a value in today's world, by the way. You know, that crazy world you live in right now where people don't get shot for wanting to earn some physical money or loving their family.

Of course for this to work someone would need to unite the world under one flag. All land would belong to the state. Efficient bureaucracy would be a necessity.

Of course! So how are you going to unite a Colombian and a Korean under one flag? Or a Russian and an American? Or an Englishman and an Indonesian? There's nothing to unite, here. You seem to think that borders are just an artificial construction. Consider this instead: the world has already been running for thousands of years before you were born. History is full of events you don't even know anything about. It's your lack of knowledge about these events that make it impossible for you to design a "perfect ideology" at this point without resorting to things like shooting everyone who disagrees.

I think it's funny and above all innocent. I would encourage you to keep it up and to keep reading and caring about politics and history and whatnot. But you've a lot of exploring to do. This doesn't have anything to do with idealism, this is about being informed. It's very easy to think you've got the world all figured out when you have no frame of reference, but you'll grow older and realise that the frame of reference you lacked when you were younger is actually way bigger than you had ever expected and that it gets harder and harder to understand how things really work.

[Thema'zandaar]

Unlike The Dude, I would encourage you. Don't be sorry, be determined. The Write Brothers were the first to fly an airplane but they were preceded by many dreamers and failures at whom people laughed and ridiculed. Who knows, you might just succeed at this seemingly impossible task.

Although your current thoughts seem to have too much of the word "anti-" in my opinion.

[Gromovnik]

I'd say the best ideology is that what harms the least people.

[Dr. Croccer]

I second the Dude. This is the idealistic far left phase that a lot of teens go through. You'll grow out of it soon enough. I was the same when I was 16. You'll become more jaded after a few discussions and a bit of reading.

[waidizss]

Maybe this is the age that the best ideas come. The older you get the less moral you become. So plausible the age of 15-25 may be the age when you have the brightest and most moral mind.

[Dr. Croccer]

It's when you're most naive yet also when your first interest in politics start to develop. After you take part in discussions and read some factual books regarding economics, history and so on you'll moderate. Idealism only lasts into adulthood when there are no others or facts to shoot it down.

[waidizss]

Maybe you are naive for not being an idealist. Surely i know the difference between reality and ideal.

[Axeman]

Utopianism is not an ideology.

All of the things you mentioned are admirable things to desire, no war, eternal peace, ect...

The problem is how best to come about these or move towards these. Any action that moves towards those is an acceptable stance to take, but the BEST stance to take however is entirely up for debate.

Also you cannot be naive for not being an idealist...

[waidizss]

Sure war is harmful for the people in it but in war biggest technological advances are being made so you can't say it is good or bad.

[Gromovnik]

Sure war is harmful for the people in it but in war biggest technological advances are being made so you can't say it is good or bad.

Have you ever experienced war?

[waidizss]

Have you ever experienced war?

This is not on topic and will not be answered.

But i will never state that it was "bad"

[Gromovnik]

This is not on topic and will not be answered.

How convenient.

But i will never state that it was "bad"

OTOH never mind, you've allready answered.

[Orion the hunter]

Sure war is harmful for the people in it but in war biggest technological advances are being made so you can't say it is good or bad.

"War is delightful to those who have not experienced it"
Desiderius Erasmus

[Axeman]

I kill your mother in a war.
I then loot your village.
I then shoot your entire family because I can.

Here is your new Toy 20 years ahead of its time.

Trade?

[Enemy of the State]

And who will organize this society of yours?

[waidizss]

I kill your mother in a war.
I then loot your village.
I then shoot your entire family because I can.

Here is your new Toy 20 years ahead of its time.

Trade?

Maybe if it was 400 years ahead of time then we could talk.