I went back to 1.2 to try this mod... my impressions

[booker]

Hello all i have been reading this forum for a few days and today i reinstall the game with 1.2 patch and played SPQR mod.

My impressions so far, i couldn`t play too much, my mouse was calling for a recharge so i had to stop... but i already fought 3 or 4 fights and i did some movement and stuff on the map.. anyways here is what i think of...

First the mod is great, the skins are just the best i ever seen... and the whole atmosphere of the game feel so more realistic than RTW, the grapnish on RTW are more Arcade than this and this is something i love, it really felt like other game.

The Graphics in game was great i really like it... it was so much serious.. really good.

I don`t have any complain on the battlefield... the music is good, i like to hear the wind.. the slience and PUM the war blow out.. really good.

Now, i want to share what i don`t like... The Map graphcis... the Banners and the colors, specially the Roman colors are way to red... shiny red... it really felt arcade instead of the dark red of the skins and faction`s logo, why LT did that strong red?

THe banners on the map, are again...not right... they seems "rushed" you know..it don`t have the detail and again the color is just bad.

The music, oh pls,, turn that music off!!... LOL, no really, it`s anoying after a while.. i think a more "low pace quite" music will be much better, i even like the vanilla a LOT more.

Well i really like it..i have to play a lot more to give impressions about the campaign so... i`ll keep playing and update this thread.

BTW i`m playing VH/M, i remember this version had the Difficulty Bug. But so far, it`s not been any hard, of course i never faced another faction than rebels.

[NorthHammer]

Modding the music is pretty easy to do. Lt's (creator) major intent on this mod was to make the game challinging, with epic scale battles. I don't know what his views are on skinning and banners, etc. I've never ad a problem with them. If you want a challande, I would strongly recommend you follow the house rules, don't expand too fast, and enjoy the fun.

[booker]

thanks yeah i`m playing with the houserule, except for one.

Oh talking about graphcis this is really small, but the horse units cards are not right, the perspective is wrong.. like the head is too big.. i don`t like them.

yeah it`s very very small and user preference... but i want to share.

[Sidmen]

Most of these skins aren't lt's they were done by many fine artists from all around. These seem to be a collection of the best skins I've seen all over. And alot of the horse units info cards' are messed up.

[booker]

well they did an amazing job, specially the roman infantry... they are the best i have seen i need to know how to replace a skin coz i won`t play another game without those skins

[lt1956]

What banners are a problem? I redid them for SPQR 5.0 they should be fine? are you speaking of the banners the units carry on the map or the city banners when the sity is empty? On the Horse UI cards, you wouldnt believe how HARD it was to get help to have UI cards made for SPQR. Most mods have Complete Teams, I am by myself, and only received help from a few fellow modders or skins and such, AoA made alot of the models and skins in SPQR and just for SPQR, you wont find them in any other mod, unless I gave permission for them to use them.

On the red, 6.0 will have the Dark red which I like also, but remember with ALL 3 Families being red your shades lose number. lol I could only do so much and keep them looking different and yet all RED.

The other colors match the factions like an aqua color for egypt since their skins are that color etc. Parthian golden yellow.

The music I like, but I dont always listen to music anyway while playing SPQR. I HATE the vanilla music, its something from a greek movie like alexander or something Doesnt sound ROMAN at all. But of course I grew up on the 50's - 60's style of Roman Movies, Spartacus, Cleopatra, Ben Hur, Quo Vadis, The Robe. To me its hard to watch a Roman movie without the senators having an English Accent. lol

Lt

[booker]

lol now i get it.. when i first hear the music i though i was looking the fall of the roman empire or 300 spartans!!

Yeah i don`t like them, it remember me the old music.. the one you actually like , Anyway i said it, it was a personal preference so is ok..

ABout the Cards, i love them all, the only ones i found wrong are the Romans Horse UI cards.
THey are not on proportion.

Ì took a screen to show you what i don`t like, but again, it`s all personal preference it`s not something "broken" or buggued. It just don`t fit right look "rushed or unpolish" but again is my Opinion so take it from what it is.

http://server2.uploadit.org/files/booker-Camios.JPG

The banners i meant are marked with a Black Box.. you see i don`t like them... i think the 2 lines they have inside are the problem, they make it seems like.. (attached to the game) they don`t seem like being part of the game..

And the UI cards , look the barbarian Card, they Horse Car.. is marked with Blue, it just perfect... WHile if you look at the Roman Horse... marked on Red, it`s just out of proportion... the Horse head is too big...just don`t feel right.

Beside this i must say the mod is awesome, i love the "action " oriented game, even i`m more for the SIM type but i know a good mod is a good mod.

My only complain so far... my victories.. too many heroic victory

I lost some battles but i won too may heroic. I guess that is RTW fault.. Playing VH/M btw.

One last question, does diplomacy was removed from the game? why ?

[Pachinko]

The music I like, but I dont always listen to music anyway while playing SPQR. I HATE the vanilla music, its something from a greek movie like alexander or something Doesnt sound ROMAN at all. But of course I grew up on the 50's - 60's style of Roman Movies, Spartacus, Cleopatra, Ben Hur, Quo Vadis, The Robe. To me its hard to watch a Roman movie without the senators having an English Accent. lol

AH HAH! Thats it! Your age! Im the same 40 till 50ish. I thought so! Thats why i like you mods.. really. :wink:

[lt1956]

I suggest reading the readme also. Diplomacy in RTW sucks. Its too lengthy yo explain but the game is more challenging without it.

I see on the UI cards, I will see if I can get these fixed. I dont like them either, but I dont make UI cards they were made by someone else. The good ones are made by ALcord. I will see if he can fix the bad ones. But its not a biggy if he cant, its better than having the vanilla that dont match at all!

I dont see anything wrong with the banners, The have custom icons, maybe you can show a closeup of the problem? I see none. Anyway thanks for your feedback.

The reason why you get heroic victories in SPQR is you are outnumbered most of the time, so you are killing alot! But if you take you time and let the AI build you will have a hard time! :-)

[booker]

yeah... i`m leting the AI to develop, so far i only took 1 city.. well, 2, actually. And i played yesterday all day, i`m on vacation

Yeah the heoric is like that, i `m outnumber and i kill 1800 and they kill only 350

But i`ll wait..

About the Banners... well, they are not wrong... i just don`t like them, that´s all they seem like grabed from other game and attached to there, They don`t seem to fit with the rest of the quality of the game, but is a personal preference, so it`s ok.

I get the Diplomacy, is broken so no problem. i get it.

[booker]

i now know what i really dislike about the banners..the 2 inside lines.

I took a closer look and they are nice, is too bad those 2 lines make them feel cheap, coz they are very good actually, but those 2 lines make them look.. cheap.

[lt1956]

Booker the banner is fixed in 6.0 That is a carry over from another symbol and the alpha blended. Its fixed, and also the colour of the barbarian symbol is different than black so it stands out more. ;-)

I contacted Alcord who makes the Best UI cards and made Many for SPQR, and he tells me he is NO LONGER playing RTW and will let me know if he does again. But since he isnt around to help I wont be able to change those few UI cards that look funny. Funny thing is the UI for that unit is from the Ferres units which had some UI cards made for them. Oh well beggers cant be choosers. I learn to accept things if I have to.

Lt

[booker]

it`s ok, no big deal, at least you fixed the banners

thanks for the info , really appreciated!