HRE units

**The Computer Illiterate** · December 30, 2010, 07:33 PM

While playing early campaign for the HRE, why can't I make units like feudal and mailed knights (foot and mounted) at all.

Also, why are units like light men at arms and armored sergenats not available until I make a citadel which I find strange (as said by the custom battle), or did it really take that long to develop those units?

**Caesar Clivus** · December 30, 2010, 09:23 PM

SS uses RealRecruitment. Units become available when they were historically. Events have to fire before they become available.

**bɑne** · December 31, 2010, 03:32 AM

Originally Posted by The Computer Illiterate

While playing early campaign for the HRE, why can't I make units like feudal and mailed knights (foot and mounted) at all.

Also, why are units like light men at arms and armored sergenats not available until I make a citadel which I find strange (as said by the custom battle), or did it really take that long to develop those units?

Originally Posted by Caesar Clivus

SS uses RealRecruitment. Units become available when they were historically. Events have to fire before they become available.

Else if you want to use the old system again try No Waiting for 6.3

**The Computer Illiterate** · December 30, 2010, 11:27 PM

Is there a time-line I can see to know when the units become available?

**Fred Putz** · December 30, 2010, 11:33 PM

Perhaps this can help You out:
http://www.pressdat.com/mtw2/HRE/HRE.html
It´s for 6.2 RR/RC, but shouldn´t be much difference.

Here´s the thread:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=351424

**The Computer Illiterate** · January 03, 2011, 08:39 AM

http://www.pressdat.com/mtw2/HRE/HRE.html says that dismounted and mounted mailed knights are availbe in fortresses until 1215 but I was never able to make them and it's now around 1200.

**Medkirtys** · January 03, 2011, 09:34 AM

Are you playing non-fixed SS version, and in SS setup you chose Disable RR ?

**The Computer Illiterate** · January 03, 2011, 10:01 AM

I think I have disabled real recruitment (I don't know how to check), but I don't know what 'non-fixed ss version' means.

**Tears of Destiny** · January 03, 2011, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by The Computer Illiterate

I think I have disabled real recruitment (I don't know how to check), but I don't know what 'non-fixed ss version' means.

It means you downloaded SS without patching it with the fixes.

For further details on how to make your game patched, please see this thread http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=407822

**k/t** · January 03, 2011, 11:32 AM

Many of the "problems" people have would be avoided entirely by carefully reading the installation instructions.

**The Computer Illiterate** · January 07, 2011, 03:07 PM

I remember downloading the 4.2 fixes download, but is there anyway I can check just to make sure?

Edit: I remember doing everything on your guide except for the option tips. I'll try disabling the UAC and see what happens.

**SirRobin** · January 08, 2011, 10:00 AM

This thread should be renamed to "Why can't I recruit certain HRE units at a certain date?"

**The Computer Illiterate** · January 08, 2011, 11:36 AM

OK, I do have the fixes installed, but, strangely, even though the campaign setup no longer has 'disable RR,' 'real recruitment disabled' is one of the additional features when I start the campaign.

Additionally, I can't recruit things like light men at arms at all, and other units like men at arms when I make a armory in a citadel regardless of time period.