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    Default The economic boom and crisis explained from a different point of view aka free market isn't the responsable

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    The essential features of the boom-bust business cycle can be understood by viewing them in terms of the financial circumstances of a single individual. Thus, imagine that an ordinary person has been going about his life more or less living within his means. And now, one day, he receives a registered letter from a major bank. The letter informs him that he is the sole heir of a distant relative who possessed a substantial fortune, and that he should come into the bank's main office in his city to sign the necessary documents and receive all the necessary authorizations to henceforth dispose of this fortune as he sees fit. Naturally, he quickly goes in and takes possession of his newfound fortune.


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    Whether the fortune in question is $100 million or $10 million, it is certain to have a major impact on this individual's life from this point forward. For it opens up new worlds to him by enabling him to now afford to buy things he could never dream of buying before. He can now afford a new home, perhaps a mansion. He can buy a whole new wardrobe, travel the world, quit any job that he currently has and does not love.
    If he is in business, he can expand his business in major ways. If he is not in business, he can start a significant-sized business. And he can now afford to invest and speculate in the stock and real-estate markets as well, inasmuch as his newfound wealth makes it possible for him no longer to fear losses of mere hundreds or thousands of dollars; indeed, it appears that he can now afford to lose even a million dollars and still be very rich.
    This is the boom period for our individual. His life is easy. He can do so much more than he had ever been able to do before. And his prospects appear limitless. For the rest of his life, he will look back upon this period with the greatest fondness and ardently wish to relive it. It is "the good times."

    The Bust

    What puts an end to our individual's life of ease is a second letter. This letter explains that it has now been proven that the relative whose fortune he's received had obtained it by criminal means. Thus the fortune did not in fact belong to that relative and therefore could not properly be passed on by him to anyone else.
    As a result, the bank concludes, our individual is obliged to return the fortune. Accordingly, all of his accounts with the bank in question have been frozen and court orders have been obtained prohibiting him from spending any more of what he has thought of as his inheritance and demanding the return of whatever is left.
    Our individual now finds himself buried in a mountain of debt that he cannot repay. He must sell his home or mansion, most likely for less than he had paid for it. (If for no other reason, this will likely be the case simply because of the payment of brokerage fees and the inability to wait very long for the right buyer.) Selling the clothes and many of the other goods he had bought will likely yield only pennies on the dollar. All that he had spent in traveling the world will be a total loss, as will be his expenditures on many other forms of luxury consumption. As for his investments, they may be profitable or unprofitable. However, given our individual's lack of great financial success prior to his receipt of his inheritance, it is more likely than not that they will have been unprofitable.
    The upshot of all this is that our individual's receipt of his "inheritance" has turned out to be a financial catastrophe for him. By leading him to make massive purchases in the mistaken conviction that he owned a fortune, when in fact he did not, it has led him to live far beyond his means and to squander much or all of the wealth he had prior to his coming into his "inheritance."

    Boom-Bust in the Wider Economy

    The pattern of boom-bust in the wider economy is essentially similar to what has been portrayed in the case of this individual. In both cases, the boom is characterized by the appearance of great new and additional wealth that does not in fact exist. The bust is the aftermath of the economic behavior inspired by this illusory wealth.
    In the boom-bust cycle of the wider economy, the illusory wealth does not take the form of false inheritances but of newly created paper bank credit that is confused with capital representing real, physical wealth. At the instigation and with the support of the Federal Reserve, in the most recent boom banks created several trillion dollars of new and additional money, which they lent out. On the foundation of this fictitious capital, the economic system was led to proceed as though corresponding new and additional physical wealth had come into being. The result, among other things, was the construction of perhaps as many as three million new houses for which people could not pay.
    In reality, the capital actually available in the boom is insufficient to support the projects that are undertaken on the foundation of the credit expansion. Instead of creating new and additional capital, credit expansion serves to drive up wage rates and the prices of capital goods. This reduces the buying power of capital funds. Ultimately, it creates a situation in which those who normally would have been in a position to lend money find that they cannot lend, or cannot lend as much, because they need the funds to finance their own internal operations that now must be carried on at higher wage rates and prices of capital goods. At the same time, for the same reason, borrowers find that the funds they have borrowed are insufficient. Thus borrowers need more money while lenders can only lend less. The upshot is a "credit crunch," in which firms go bankrupt for lack of funds.


    In the boom phase, massive debts have been accumulated. As these debts become unpayable, the capital of the firms that have lent the funds is correspondingly reduced. In the process, the capital of the banks that have created the new and additional credit can be wiped out, creating the potential for bank runs and an actual decline in the quantity of money in the economic system. The mere specter of such events creates a major increase in the demand for money for cash holding, with the result that spending in the economic system starts to decrease even without an actual fall in the quantity of money.
    The conclusion to be drawn is that the key to avoiding "busts" is to avoid the credit expansion and "booms" that cause them. Booms are not periods of prosperity but of the squandering of wealth. The longer they last, the worse is the devastation that follows.
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    Default Re: The economic boom and crisis explained from a different point of view aka free market isn't the responsable

    Mises always did have an amusingly contrary slant on everything.

    His theory is perfect, but only by the standards of his chosen school of economic theory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolling Thunder View Post
    Mises always did have an amusingly contrary slant on everything.

    His theory is perfect, but only by the standards of his chosen school of economic theory.
    Well, sadly his theory describe very well what already happened in the last years. Governments and central banks are always ready to make the free market as their scapegoat.

    Quote Originally Posted by justicar5 View Post
    oh look mises, not a biased propogandist site at all.
    Because country.gov isn't a biased site at all?
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    Default Re: The economic boom and crisis explained from a different point of view aka free market isn't the responsable

    oh look mises, not a biased propogandist site at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justicar5 View Post
    oh look mises, not a biased propogandist site at all.
    From now on I am going to dismiss everything you say just because it's you.

    Oh look, justicar, not a biased propagandist at all.

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    Default Re: The economic boom and crisis explained from a different point of view aka free market isn't the responsable

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    From now on I am going to dismiss everything you say just because it's you.

    Oh look, justicar, not a biased propagandist at all.

    you didn't already

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    There are multiple takes on this. I'm not at all convinced that you can pin it down to needing any one type of currency and there are always going to be problems that can occur, we can also look at the problems of our banking systems and lending practices as contributory causes as well, and I posted a thread not so long back that didn't even go that far but started talking about wage and productivity disparities leading to massive credit expansion as a tool to compensate. Like anything I think trying to pin it down to only one source and say THIS! THIS IS THE PROBLEM, is going to be a simplistic view.
    Mises wheres it's heart on it's sleave and it's answer to everything is going to be 'let the market handle it' even if the problem IS the market, that is no more realistic or valid than a leninists 'let the state handle it'.
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    Default Re: The economic boom and crisis explained from a different point of view aka free market isn't the responsable

    Quote Originally Posted by justicar5 View Post
    you didn't already



    Mises wheres it's heart on it's sleave and it's answer to everything is going to be 'let the market handle it' even if the problem IS the market, that is no more realistic or valid than a leninists 'let the state handle it'.
    When it comes to discussing this stuff everyone has a biased angle. And in terms of the writing and not the forums it is fairly educated stuff that focuses on issues mainly from an Austrian perspective that is no different from publications that only look at it from keynesian perspectives which is all mainstream journalism. So your point, I'm not seeing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denny Crane! View Post
    When it comes to discussing this stuff everyone has a biased angle. And in terms of the writing and not the forums it is fairly educated stuff that focuses on issues mainly from an Austrian perspective that is no different from publications that only look at it from keynesian perspectives which is all mainstream journalism. So your point, I'm not seeing it.

    The in built assumption (that the absolute free market is the route to happiness liberty and all good stuff) strikes me as naive, when the reverse has been shown to be true repeatadly. For example, Hiati was forced, by the IMF as part of the 'rescue package' after the return of Aristide (coditionally after the 1994 invasion), no import restrictions, no subsidies for development of local industry etc. The Haitian economy collapsed, under the weight of dumped goods from ( mainly US, but some others) agri-corps et al. Who had over produced (or had 'spare parts' for instance meat from cows breed for leather), the 'free market' obliterated what economy had survived the junta.

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    Default Re: The economic boom and crisis explained from a different point of view aka free market isn't the responsable

    This is just the standard argument on commodity based curencies. Try searching the site for the massive discussions in the past and why commodity based currencies cannot work in a modern industrial economy.

    Short answer -- we have better things to do industrially with gold and silver than digging a hole and burying the stuff. Besides commodities respond to price shifts and bubbles and are not a stable store of value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking Prince View Post
    This is ust the standard argument on commodity based curencies. Try searching the site for the massive discussions in the past and why commodity based currencies cannot work in a modern industrial economy.

    Short answer -- we have better things to do industrially with gold and silver than digging a hole and burying the stuff. Besides commodities respond to price shifts and bubbles and are not a stable store of value.
    In fairness, the specifics of this argument are not inherently directed towards advocacy of a commodity-based currency. They are in advocacy of a non-inflationary monetary policy (ironically, this can occur within a commodity-based currency system, and the Spanish found out to their dismay in the 1700s).
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    Quote Originally Posted by justicar5 View Post
    oh look mises, not a biased propogandist site at all.
    Sigh...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolling Thunder View Post
    In fairness, the specifics of this argument are not inherently directed towards advocacy of a commodity-based currency. They are in advocacy of a non-inflationary monetary policy (ironically, this can occur within a commodity-based currency system, and the Spanish found out to their dismay in the 1700s).
    There are multiple takes on this. I'm not at all convinced that you can pin it down to needing any one type of currency and there are always going to be problems that can occur, we can also look at the problems of our banking systems and lending practices as contributory causes as well, and I posted a thread not so long back that didn't even go that far but started talking about wage and productivity disparities leading to massive credit expansion as a tool to compensate. Like anything I think trying to pin it down to only one source and say THIS! THIS IS THE PROBLEM, is going to be a simplistic view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denny Crane! View Post
    Sigh...



    There are multiple takes on this. I'm not at all convinced that you can pin it down to needing any one type of currency and there are always going to be problems that can occur, we can also look at the problems of our banking systems and lending practices as contributory causes as well, and I posted a thread not so long back that didn't even go that far but started talking about wage and productivity disparities leading to massive credit expansion as a tool to compensate. Like anything I think trying to pin it down to only one source and say THIS! THIS IS THE PROBLEM, is going to be a simplistic view.
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    How about we define the rights that allow a government to say that isn't within my freedom.

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