Custom Bilbo campaign?

[Valaraukar]

I was just wondering if someone had already planned or thought about modelling a custom campaign about Bilbo. Like the fellowship campaign for TATW 2.1 but with the story of Bilbo Baggins and his fellows...

I have no skill at modelling so this is why I'm asking the question here, I know there are lots of modders here and I wanted to know if someone had already thought about it...

Merry Christmas btw people!

[Túrin_Turambar]

Merry Christmas btw people!

This is totally inappropriate here...next time post it at this location!!!
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=413129

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...just kidding, btw this sounds interesting

[Valaraukar]

I know, my bad
But seriously, no idea? I was watching Bilbo the hobbit (1977 movie) and I was like "why wouldn't there be a campaign?"
It shouldn't be that hard, it is the same map and units (only the dragon is missing...)
But I don't know if someone will be motivated one day to try that (or sober enough after christmas)

[Muffer Nl]

Sounds interesting but not extremely total war like.

[Valaraukar]

I know, it would be just like the fellowship campaign, only small battles but with powerfull heroes... but it would need a lot of coding and scripting I guess... (sorry for the double-post)

[the cooliest]

I suggested this in my first post ever a while ago . But I do really like the idea. I can see 4 or 5 (Troll battle, Goblin tunnels battle, spider battle, Smaug battle, and the battle of 5 armies) battles for the campaign. And then once you win, you could play as reforged Erebor. But I don't really see anything other that though. Would probably be a really short campaign though.

[Valaraukar]

Sorry The Cooliest, didn't knew that at all
Fact is that I don't know if it would be that short, there could be things with Beorn or Thranduil's Elves to do...but still, I agree it wouldn't be a long campaign but...who knows...people would maybe appreciate to play the adventures of Bilbo Baggins... (I would )

[alreadyded]

With everything that was accomplished in the Fellowship Campaign it wouldn't be too hard if you just reuse scripts. But I don't think anyone will do it unless it is Amon Amrath 930 himself. The campaign would have to be short seeing as the book itself is quite short. So it may not even be worth the trouble.

[Odenathus]

Maybe you could see it as a sequence of the important battles like Alexander Total War did. That way you don't have to do the scripting nor the useless walking on the worldmap.

Odenat

[Shocked]

From memory KK and the other users creating the fellowship campaign said they found it quite challenging at times

[tanit]

Don't forget that during the Hobbit Gandalf leaves for a while to confront the Necromancer, aka Sauron, in southern Mirkwood alongside the White Council.

[Valaraukar]

Don't forget that during the Hobbit Gandalf leaves for a while to confront the Necromancer, aka Sauron, in southern Mirkwood alongside the White Council.

True, that would make some epic battles, elves and wizards against the Necromancer... I really think that it could be a valuable campaign, if it is well done and scenarized...

[Incan]

Only if ALL the songs are sung by KK and implemented in game

[Liamar]

NEW IDEA:
Start main campaign sooner lore-wise. and make Dwarves start out in Iron Hills and Blue mountains without Erebor.
Then script a quest in which Thorin has to go from Blue Mountains, to hobbiton, take Bilbo unit/ancillary from there, travel to Erebor (with scripts in Trolshaws, Misty Mountains, Mirkwood and Erebor, but without limited movement so they can go straight to Erebor) and voi'la! Arnor-reemergence-like thingy for Dwarves! Awesome!


As too smaug, there's no need for model. Just make mega-overpowered unit of snagas with dragon icon that will keep AI away. And make it that somehow you can't siege it.
And when script of retaking Erebor is executed, just play a movie sequence of him getting owned. It may be this of 1977, it's awesome too xD

[the cooliest]

I suggested the Erebor reamergence just like 5 posts up Liamar .

[Liamar]

Awawooohhhhh, thats what you ment there!

[Valaraukar]

Yep, I like Liamar's ideas, in fact, I can't believe nobody ever thought about making a custom campaign like the fellowship but for Bilbo... there could be some nice things to do here...plus it would make two campaigns for TATW 2.1, which wouldn't be that bad I think...

[the cooliest]

Maybe to kill the dragon (I think alreadyded has a couple dragons in progress) you could have the Dwarves reach Erebor and once they do, a script triggers Smaug to fly down to Esgaroth, where you play as Bard and must kill the Dragon with a unit of uber archers. It's close to the book (except for the unit of archers but whatever) and plausibly could work.

The Dwarven expedition would be were all the Dwarves have a unit of well Dwarves, Bilbo with a stealthy hobbit unit, and Gandalf with a unit of who knows what, with scripts were he leaves and then you must play as him fighting the Nemocrancer with the White Council and such.

I'm not sure if the Dwarves would be lightly armed or not, maybe they could start out lightly armed (as the party does in the book) and then when the battle of five armies happens, they get a scripted upgrade with armour and such, like the book.

Once you complete the campaign which would include a scripted battle against stone trolls (could be mountain trolls) in Eriador, a scripted battle with the Goblin King, meet the Eagles and Beorn, fight a scripted battle against a group of spiders (under development by alreadyded I think) in Mirkwood, wait in Mirkwood for a while and get away (not sure how that would happen, could just be wait around for an allotted amount of turns), get to Erebor with the party and have the Smaug battle I already described, and finally fight the Battle of Five Armies (not sure if the player should have all the good guys or should just be the Dwarves though), you play as the Reconstructed Erebor Kingdom or something like that. There should also be some battles as Gandalf with the White Council against the Nemocrancer.

As for not allowing Erebor to be attacked prior to the company getting there, make it filled with a bunch of orcs raiders like Osgiliath is in the Fellowship Campaign, and once you reach there and fight Smaug, a script gives you the city (somewhat like what Liamar said),

[alreadyded]

Even with the addition of creatures in battles, the campaign would be too short and the battles too few. Many have thought of this idea already, but most peeps (players and modders), probably wouldn't even want to bother with it. But if anyone does, they can use my creatures. I already have parts The Hobbit story incorporated into the main campaign, and I will add more later.

[Valaraukar]

Even with the addition of creatures in battles, the campaign would be too short and the battles too few. Many have thought of this idea already, but most peeps (players and modders), probably wouldn't even want to bother with it. But if anyone does, they can use my creatures. I already have parts The Hobbit story incorporated into the main campaign, and I will add more later.

That would be nice
I like your deadly creatures, they would fit to the story IMO...