So i heard NTW3 is revolutionary mp mod

♠ Marshal Beale ♠: alright, NOW isn't a mature mod compared to NTW3
♠ Marshal Beale ♠: NTW3 is far superior
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Even Beale thinks so

NTW3 is okay. It is really slow paced though and I doubt many ppl on here will like that. I found it pretty fun but it was very different to NTW. I kind of wish they would keep the speed of the troops and the stamina and the accuracy instead of making every battle take forever by nerfing all that. I mean if they had all those units and factions with somewhat faster gameplay it would be even better imo. I'm sure alot of ppl dont think so though.

Your words are cancer

SRY T_T

if they leave the shooting the stamina and the speed the same all they would really be doing is playing dress ups. public beta will be open soon and people will be able to decide for themselves.

All the thing scip said are what is wrong with nap lol,bring it on im looking forwad to it.

The men should have more speed and stamina.

Last time I checked people don't get "winded" from running 200m

200 meters in game equal 500 to 1000 real meters.

no biggun....just no

Originally Posted by FilipVonZietek

200 meters in game equal 500 to 1000 real meters.

Originally Posted by DunkFunk

no biggun....just no

I cant believe you just said that . . .

well tbf they have a gun and ammo on them too, so would be quite a heavy load.they don't run naked lol

Also uniforms were often tight as skinny jeans you can bearly put on.

Yes but I figured the people on this forum are the same people that get annoyed when people try to be logical and historical. Guess not. I actually find it a sort of fun mod. I don't think they are playing dress-ups by giving the units varied stats and giving the nations more variety in unit choices and just creating more nations. I meant in general the accuracy for that mod makes the game quite slow. I still like it but you will be able to tell the differences in a match's length and how the units rout then come back every two secs. Also the stamina for the units is much worse. Take that as you may but I find it a pain that my cavalry, just like in RTW, is not able to chase a light inf running while the light inf is at fresh and its at tired.

I have highly enjoyed beta testing NTW3, it is loads of fun. Game play is slower then vanilla but it still flows at a good speed in my opinion. The addition of minor nations and accurate uniforms is a welcome change, as is fog of war My favorite difference between NTW3 and vanilla is the lack of light infantry spam and how the main focus has shifted from skirmishing to line infantry combat; I hate vanilla for the fact that the winner is nearly always the player with the first light volley.

Ntw just pretends to be set in napoleonic times, it fools most of you with historical uniforms and some bullshieeet. What makes certain period unique in terms of combat are specific tactics wich are possible only due to traits such as weapon acecuracy, range, morale and the way troops were organised and even more things like that. You cant have napoleonic game if all of that important things are biased.

If you want to play a arcadish tactical game, you are not intersested in specific historical period, you dont care about maps looking like those from starcraft, you enjoy howizter explosions more than maneouvers keep on playing vanilla.

If you want to play the a game which tries its best to reflect napoleonic warfare and is still very playable (thanks to properly choosen scaling and many other efforts) there is only one choice:

NAPOLEONIC TOTAL WAR 3

Originally Posted by FilipVonZietek

Ntw just pretends to be set in napoleonic times

Originally Posted by FilipVonZietek

If you want to play the a game which tries its best to reflect napoleonic warfare

afaik, all games pretend to be set somewhere

He is saying on a tactical level it doesnt really represent napoleonic warfare.

yeah, was nit picking. imo, its pretty easy to represent napoleonic warfare, much harder to do so accurately.ntw3 is good because it is a lot more accurate, but you would think that CA had to have some sort of balancing between realism and the "arcade" feel-just being able to pick up the game and play.

Making howitzers overpoered and cannons almost useles is sort of balance? Making lights dominate the battlefield? Lancers and shooting cav rendering cuirasers almost useless?

Originally Posted by FilipVonZietek

Making howitzers overpoered and cannons almost useles is sort of balance? Making lights dominate the battlefield? Lancers and shooting cav rendering cuirasers almost useless?

surely it depends on how you use each unit though?howitzers are puny against forts for example, while cannons aren't very effective against men. cannons can come in very handy to take down other art too.the howitzers are screwed up, i think that was debated a lot in other threads.
when you use a unit, chances are you don't want it out there on its own, its how you integrate it into your army and how well you implement your tactics.
on the cav issue, i tend to use heavier cav on the counter attack, they are far more useful that way.not often will you be wanting to charge a heavy cav unit into lancers or shooter cav, but when the latter two are engaged, a charge by some heavy cav decimates them.
thing is, the way i see it, is that if you used the default armies for example, it would lead to a better balanced game.
but if you got the chance to use a powerful unit for a good price, you exploit it.any competitive gamer tries to seek out as many advantages as they can, its just how it goes.little mistakes by the developers are exploited and they seem like massive flaws.