Huge stacks of rebels in Late Era Campaign?

**Shuazoid** · December 21, 2010, 09:15 AM

Im not too sure if its a bug but there are HUGE stacks of rebel troops around each place. Some towns also have Rebels in them with fully stacked Crusader Knights (Which seem to make no sense).

Are they a bug?

I am very tempted to just "Auto_win attacker" them to get rid of them.

Seems like rebels start off incredibly strong

**Kapau** · December 21, 2010, 10:34 AM

If I recall correctly, all rebel settlements have a shared income. So the fewer cities there's left, the more money do they have to produce troops.

**Ishan** · December 21, 2010, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by Kapau

If I recall correctly, all rebel settlements have a shared income. So the fewer cities there's left, the more money do they have to produce troops.

True.
And perhaps SS also use a money script for slave\rebel faction it does for normal factions.

**bɑne** · December 21, 2010, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by Shuazoid

Im not too sure if its a bug but there are HUGE stacks of rebel troops around each place. Some towns also have Rebels in them with fully stacked Crusader Knights (Which seem to make no sense).

Are they a bug?

I am very tempted to just "Auto_win attacker" them to get rid of them.

Seems like rebels start off incredibly strong

Originally Posted by Kapau

If I recall correctly, all rebel settlements have a shared income. So the fewer cities there's left, the more money do they have to produce troops.

If those fully stacked Crusader Knights are in Constantinople then those are the remnants of the 4th crusade as they are represented in the game.

**FabianScarus** · December 21, 2010, 05:33 PM

It may just be that my Byzantine history is a little rusty, but did rebels really own Constantinople in 1220?

**k/t** · December 21, 2010, 05:39 PM

The rebels represent the Latin kingdoms that popped up after the Fourth Crusade.

Who's the guy in the picture and what is he doing?

**FabianScarus** · December 21, 2010, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by k/t

The rebels represent the Latin kingdoms that popped up after the Fourth Crusade.

Who's the guy in the picture and what is he doing?

Oh I understand now. Should have realized what it was representing.

That's Cary Elwes as Westley holding a sword to your neck wearing a Christmas hat in front of Big Ben in the winter of course!

**k/t** · December 21, 2010, 05:44 PM

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=412469

Ha! I was thinking "looks like a cross between...uh...that guy...Men In Tights...Cary Elwes!! and Morgan Spurlock...and he's pointing something at the screen".

**FabianScarus** · December 21, 2010, 05:47 PM

LOL. Yah that 'thing' is a sword

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**k/t** · December 21, 2010, 05:42 PM

Strong rebels represent kingdoms and duchies and other factions that didn't make it into the game due to the faction limit.

**FabianScarus** · December 21, 2010, 05:45 PM

I personally feel that 'Rebels' should have been renamed 'Independent Kingdoms (or States)' and have 'Latin Crusade (or Kingdom)' and other faction names instead of 'Greek Rebels' and such.

**Connstantine XI** · December 22, 2010, 12:28 AM

If it's in Constantinople, thessalonika, Mystras, and Athens, I was under the impression that was representing the Latin kingdom. Very hard to beat playing eastern romans on hard... Especially when Constantinople gets the appetite for
jihads..

**bɑne** · December 23, 2010, 12:02 AM

Topics merged.

**Ichon** · December 23, 2010, 12:07 AM

Problem with the rebels is they usually leave the city and wait in the countryside somewhere... so you can siege and capture the whole region without fighting the armies until you get a later much easier siege battle. Trying to take a couple of those Greek cities representing Latin kingdoms can be quite hard in a siege battle but is relatively easy in a field battle.