Be a Modder: Doctoring of Medieval 2 units.

[scolsie1]

Well after a little bit of trying it seems that I finally understood that I dont need the attachments file of the original unit. Using the texture file and the attachments file of the basunit did the trick for me.
Now I am stuck getting the units in game - I fear that I made a misstake for yesterday the archer unit worked but now my game crashes.
Where can I find the modeldb checker?

[paleologos]

Check the Text Editing and Scripting parts.

[scolsie1]

Hello again

I wish to transfer the bow from one unit to the other. Both units look almost identical (and use the same 2 texture files) but I want to give the bow used by unit 2 to unit 1. It would be great if unit 1 afterwards also has the former bow of unit 2 on its back while fighting in melee.
Is there any way to do such thinks in milkshade?

Thanks

[scolsie1]

Sorry for beeing annoying but I still got some questions around using milkshade.

I have a unit (baseunit) using a bow and sword + shield. Upon opening their ms3d file in milkshade I cant find a way to remove their shild. For some reason it is linked to the units bow or sword. So in order to remove their shield I have to remove their bow and sword. The sword is not a problem for I can bring it back via merging. But the bow gives me pause - I really like the fact that the unit puts the bow on its back while beeing in melee or out of ammo. For that reason I dont want to delete the bow and bring it back via merging which would be possible at the price of the unit putting the bow on its back.
So there are my questions:
Can I remove the shield, but keep the sword and the bow (both at the left hand and the back)?
And secondly how can I tell milkshade to put thinks like shields or bows at the back of units when these parts are not active?

I would love if anyone could help me out with my struggle

Thanks

[paleologos]

I made a tutorial for you and I posted the link in your wall.
(Here is the link again: [Tutorial] Collection of tutorials: "Learn-on-the-job", AKA "Holding a noob's hand", first post of the thread, 5th case)

In it I clearly say that if two (also works for more than two) objects are grouped together and you need to delete one of them then you need to select the part you want to delete manually and hit the Delete key on your keyboard.
The style and exhaustiveness of the tutorial are as they are for the sake of the absolute noob. Give it a browse and go through the steps if only for practice.

[Khevsur]

Please update first posts links, I start learning

[Boltzmann's Brain]

hello, I'm new to the forums.
Recently I've been trying to create a submod for Stainless Steel, adding a 1453 campaign with historically accurate factions, their borders, faction leaders and their heirs. One of the new factions or this era is going to be the Grand Duchy Moscow. Now I'm not trying to be overly ambitious as a noob, and I think other russian factions unit rosters are close to what Moscow had in real life, so I can mostly fill it with those units (and pehaps some units from vanilla). But there's one unit, that I thinks, needs to be added. And that's Streltsy. They were an iconic Muscovite unit from that era https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streltsy

What I'm trying to do in order to add them is simple - I'm retexturing cossack musketeers. However one problem with that is that cossack musketeers use swords as their secondary weapons, while streltsy iconically used berdiches/two handed axes. And that's when my problem comes in. I followed the instructions from this tutorial as closely as I was able to, in order to swap swords with berdiches on cossack musketeers model. But the end result is an army of scarecrows:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Some of them are painted red, but that's just a result of my experiments in gimp, so ignore it.
I also changed their meele animation entries in modeldb to two handed weapons, so it looks like this now

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

4 None
18 MTW2_Fast_Arquebus
11 MTW2_2H_Axe 1
21 MTW2_Arquebus_Primary 1
19 MTW2_2H_Axe_primary
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

However I'm not sure if this could cause any problems. I changed those entires before using milkshape to swap their swords for berdiches and it worked fine (they performed the 2h animations with their one handed swords)
I use Windows 7 64bit, milkshape 1.8.4, and GOM's converter.
Can I get some help please? I'd greatly appreciate it.

[Araval]

Hello, try with this tool instead of GOM: https://www.twcenter.net/forums/show...1#post15222239

[Firnafin]

Hello everyone, Merry Christmas !

I need some help for a unit:

I'm trying to make a unit based on the Islamic_General model for the mongols (a merge with the Mongol Heavy Archer), but I have a CTD when lauching the game (no loading screen appears). I can't find the reason why, maybe the unique lod line ?

13 golden_wolves
1 1
60 unit_models/_units/as_lamellar_heavy/golden_wolves_lod0.mesh 6400
2
7 mongols
91 unit_models/_Generals_and_Captains/Islamic_General/textures/islamic_general_mongols.texture
90 unit_models/_Generals_and_Captains/Islamic_General/textures/islamic_general_normal.texture 0
52 unit_sprites/mongols_Mongol_Heavy_Archers_sprite.spr
5 SLAVE
90 unit_models/_Generals_and_Captains/Islamic_General/textures/islamic_general_rebels.texture
90 unit_models/_Generals_and_Captains/Islamic_General/textures/islamic_general_normal.texture 0
52 unit_sprites/mongols_Mongol_Heavy_Archers_sprite.spr
2
7 mongols
59 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Asian_mongols_diff.texture
59 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Asian_mongols_norm.texture 0
5 SLAVE
60 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Asian_timurids_diff.texture
60 unit_models/AttachmentSets/Final Asian_timurids_norm.texture 0
1
5 Horse
11 MTW2_HR_Bow 12 MTW2_HR_Mace
2
19 MTW2_HR_Bow_Primary 14 fs_test_shield
2
17 MTW2_Mace_Primary 14 fs_test_shield
16 -0.090000004 0 0 -0.34999999 0.80000001 0.60000002

Are there restrictions for the use of general and captain model ?

Thank you guys for your help !

[Araval]

Hi! Merry Christmas!

Generals can't use archer animations. At first you can copy and paste the animation entries from an existing general model.

[Firnafin]

Thanks for your quick answer!

To be more clear, I'm not trying to make a general use a bow, I'm trying to make a horse archer with a general mesh merged with the weapon of a mongol heavy horse archer.

So I don't know why it wouldn't work.

[Araval]

Right! Your question at the end misled me.

Did you increase the entries count at the top of modeldb when you added this?

[Firnafin]

Yes I did.

Could the problem come from the fact that the general model is just made up of a "knight" group ?

[Araval]

The model isn't even loaded at startup, so that can't be it. I think there's something in the code causing the crash.

[Firnafin]

Indeed, it was the sprite part. Though I don't know why.

[bitterhowl]

5 SLAVE

Maybe this one? Why caps?