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    If you're European, have you ever wondered why your camera can only record for 29 minutes and 59 seconds? That's because, according to EU regulations, if it records any longer, it's considered a camcorder and not a camera, and thus subject to a higher tax base, so it is more profitable to make an inferior product. There are probably thousands of instances of these silly regulations holding back progress and screwing with our everyday lives, this one just recently came to my attention. Am I the only one that finds this utterly insane?
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    No, join the club. The EU's a monster, and the amount of people who have any actual desire to speak out against it are pathetically few.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    No, join the club. The EU's a monster, and the amount of people who have any actual desire to speak out against it are pathetically few.
    Alot of founding countries of the EU are going through serious financial troubles, so don't worry the whole EU idea is probably going to be abandoned soon.
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    Don’t take this the wrong way but it doesn’t seem as though camera memory is a likely subject to spark off a revolution. I could be wrong. Maybe there are strong feelings on this issue.
    Which is why he said that it's just one of many issues of the EU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascarona View Post
    Alot of founding countries of the EU are going through serious financial troubles, so don't worry the whole EU idea is probably going to be abandoned soon.
    The meeting that took place a few days ago that chnaged the Lisabon Treaty to include a mechanism to help countries in need of help made you think that or what ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShockBlast View Post
    The meeting that took place a few days ago that chnaged the Lisabon Treaty to include a mechanism to help countries in need of help made you think that or what ?
    No... the fact that the IMF has already had to save 2 countries very close after one another soon after it was started makes me think that. I bet Portugal or Spain is going to request help before the end of this year. We can't bail them out forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascarona View Post
    No... the fact that the IMF has already had to save 2 countries very close after one another soon after it was started makes me think that. I bet Portugal or Spain is going to request help before the end of this year. We can't bail them out forever.
    IMF saved them in your wet anti-EU dream,EU was the driving force behind the aid packages.EU doesn't have anything to do with the crisis so blaiming the them for the failed economic governance of the national governments is stupid.
    The crisis will help the EU get stronger,without the Euro the big countries wouldn't have any reason to save those little countries and the elimination on the word's most powerful currency is out of the question because the crisis itself doesn't have any link to the currency,Bruxelles or Frankfurt(the HQ of the European Central Bank)
    Let's not even talk about the boost that currency gave to countries like Ireland or Spain.

    Quote Originally Posted by ♔IPA35♔ View Post
    I wonder why there is a need for a super federal government to pass such trivial legislation. Wasn't the EU (atleast that is what the propaganda tells us) meant to solve the things that individual states could not solve?
    EU is ment to represent the member states not to interfere in national problems.Direct interferance in national problems would have EU a state and the member states would be just provinces when in fact the EU aims to be a federation so it would take care of the external and federal level problems not national ones.
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    Don’t take this the wrong way but it doesn’t seem as though camera memory is a likely subject to spark off a revolution. I could be wrong. Maybe there are strong feelings on this issue.
    European arrest warrants and the different takes on what constitutes justice and due process. Something like that I could understand people getting upset about because of being extradited to foreign countries on flimsy evidence.
    To be honest I think any kind of criticism of anything even vaguely European related gets dismissed as xenophobia. After a couple of decades of getting upset about this stuff and being branded a reactionary I’ve come to accept there is nothing I can do about it.
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    Well it is the little things as well as the structural and fundamental problems of the EU that bugs the British people in general.

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    the EU needs a complete overhaul I think. It's an innefficient juggernaut of beaucracy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ascarona View Post
    Alot of founding countries of the EU are going through serious financial troubles, so don't worry the whole EU idea is probably going to be abandoned soon.
    I doubt it. It's not like economic cooperation and political concurrence is a bad thing. I just think the EU needs to cut the crap, cut the budget and focus more on those areas rather than regulating bannana sizes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy Leary View Post
    If you're European, have you ever wondered why your camera can only record for 29 minutes and 59 seconds? That's because, according to EU regulations, if it records any longer, it's considered a camcorder and not a camera, and thus subject to a higher tax base, so it is more profitable to make an inferior product. There are probably thousands of instances of these silly regulations holding back progress and screwing with our everyday lives, this one just recently came to my attention. Am I the only one that finds this utterly insane?
    A certain class of politicians try to compensate their penis size by creating a USE. Hench the silly little laws that countries can perfectly decide for themselfs.
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    Did you know there are regulations restricting the outflow pressure of your showerhead? Or regulations about how toilets flush? Or that incandescent light bulbs are getting banned soon?
    It's these little things that bug me the most. There is a hidden bureaucracy that is intruding into our everyday life. you, leave me alone.

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    I wonder why there is a need for a super federal government to pass such trivial legislation. Wasn't the EU (atleast that is what the propaganda tells us) meant to solve the things that individual states could not solve?
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    If there's just one thing about the EU that I support, it's its initiative in protecting human rights, workers rights, and allowing for the easier exchange of goods throughout EU countries, as well as easier travel between them.

    We don't need a federal superstructure which regulates economies, takes away sovereignty, and advances the interests of German interests. The only problem is if they don't control our governments and our economies, governments have little reason to actually listen to the good legislation which the EU brings forward. Kinda like nobody gives a shite about the UN, even though we're all supposed to be abiding by its rules and such.

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    Even if Norway is outside the EU, all these silly things are still funnelled straight under our public noses. All of them, except a very few controversial subject's like the EU Data directive. These controversial legislations are halted by giant public and political pressure for a couple of months. Even Labour's youth hate it, all other political party's, all private interests, even some gov. agency's. The one who support it is Labour elite and several police agency's. All this juggling back and forth continues, before a small part of the government forces it in regardless when the media isn't looking. The whole god deam , while the media pretends like absolutly nothing ever happened.

    If it's not the Labour who push for EU, it's the Conservatives and their minion (party).

    The Anti-EU Self-destruction Mechanism of the minority party's who are in gov. with Labour are only in effect if Labour mention that they formally want to join EU, but what the public doesn't see - the public doesn't know. Ergo, the minority party's doesn't have to self destruct their government while these "minor" changes happens (on a constant basis).

    It's the same thing with everything else here. When the public say a clear "no" to something, the government smile, sugar coat it for a couple of months and then steamroll the whole thing anyway. Off course, they are the richest gov. in the world and can bribe the population with it's cash cow over the next 30 years with rain forest- concisions and other culturel I don't agree with.

    Same thing with those f* anti-terror crap US diplomats push under the carpet. No one mentions it until it's gone 5 long years.... And I was once the fool who taught Norway got it's independence in 1905. Slap me twice and call me for dinner!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy Leary View Post
    If you're European, have you ever wondered why your camera can only record for 29 minutes and 59 seconds? That's because, according to EU regulations, if it records any longer, it's considered a camcorder and not a camera, and thus subject to a higher tax base, so it is more profitable to make an inferior product. There are probably thousands of instances of these silly regulations holding back progress and screwing with our everyday lives, this one just recently came to my attention. Am I the only one that finds this utterly insane?
    i dont care - i dont have a camera

    but yeah there is losts like the standard cucumber etc - pretty silly this. not like anyone is severely hurt by it but it seems very silly sometimes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy Leary View Post
    If you're European, have you ever wondered why your camera can only record for 29 minutes and 59 seconds? That's because, according to EU regulations, if it records any longer, it's considered a camcorder and not a camera, and thus subject to a higher tax base, so it is more profitable to make an inferior product. There are probably thousands of instances of these silly regulations holding back progress and screwing with our everyday lives, this one just recently came to my attention. Am I the only one that finds this utterly insane?
    Funny, do you blame this on difference in tax base? Nope on manufacturer trying to squize some extra profit out of it ? The costumer who wants to film a hour and a half and buys a camera not capable of doing this? nope its the EU. always was and always will be.



    Get over it . Vote against it, complain when they actually do something stupid but dont make up this nonsense .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy Leary View Post
    If you're European, have you ever wondered why your camera can only record for 29 minutes and 59 seconds? That's because, according to EU regulations, if it records any longer, it's considered a camcorder and not a camera, and thus subject to a higher tax base, so it is more profitable to make an inferior product. There are probably thousands of instances of these silly regulations holding back progress and screwing with our everyday lives, this one just recently came to my attention. Am I the only one that finds this utterly insane?
    lol, you think the EU raises taxes, do you?

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    This isn't an anti-EU rant. National governments are just as guilty. I don't see much of a difference really. A bureaucrat is a bureaucrat.

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    talking about eu standards.. remember when we discussed the eu planned ban on classic lightbulb in favor of the energy efficient new light bulbs. this might be cancelled. germany found the risk to high because when energy efficient bulbs break they are dangerous because of the quicksilver that is then set free.

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    A federation is a federal state. The EU makes regulation that single states can do themselves.
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