Dealing with Rebellions

There have been so many threads on this topic in every game CA has put out that I could not begin to count them.

In NTW in particular the number of rebels are proportionate to the number and quality of troops you have in the province that is in rebellion.

If you have a full stack of units in the province you are going to get about three rebel stacks. If those units have experience then the rebels will have more.

If you want a rebellion that you can take on and take out in a single turn then you are going to have to use an exploit, that I will tell you about.

Move all units in the province out!

It still won't be easy to handle the enemy but you will get a fighting chance.

If there are no units in the region then you will have two to three rebel stacks anyway but they will not be experienced. Chances are good that only one will be a full stack. Units placed on the border should have a chance to take them out and they will not withdraw until combat is over.

This is the best way I have found to deal with the sure rebellions you are going to come up against, especially in France.

In France and Spain your police troops count at half value. A full stack will only give you 10 points of garrison so rebellion is much more likely in these regions.

So that is just about the best way to handle them, that I have found.

I've always found the rebellions in this game to be completely ridiculous

This is not the only game where the opposing troops are progressive.

The Mongol Invasions in MTW were worse. If you had troops waiting in the province it really got ugly. The more troops you had the more troops they had to a factor of about 10.

It is about a factor of three in this game.

It is best to run across the border just before the rebellion happens and come back with a vengeance. Otherwise you are going to be facing some very powerful armies.
This way at least you can deal with it if you have not been able to prevent it.

I am really annoyed with them. Quite annoying, too powerful.

I reckon if you take london, paris or berlin and want to keep it then you want rebels to come so you get the military crackdown bonus. I always used to exempt tax and use a huge garrison but it means you still get the rebellions you just have to wait longer, get no settlement income and have an inactive army glued to the region. Better to keep collecting the tax and move yr army away till the rebbellion comes then kill them to a man, if they still unhappy do it again.

Another option is to have a full stack of militia ready to move into the capital as soon as you take it.

Destroy research centers as soon as you occupy the capital and repair damaged buildings.

This worked for me as the French taking London and Berlin, it didn't work for France (as GB) but I think that was because
I forgot to dismantle a research center..

Edit: Exempt the region from taxes too

Cheers

Lucius

Uh how does an intellectual center incerase population's unhappiness?

Originally Posted by Ricox

Uh how does an intellectual center incerase population's unhappiness?

An intellectual center increases the "clamor for reform" (presumably political and social reform) which in turn increases unhappiness.

It's a strategic problem. Napoleon assaults Vienna from Bavaria. Does he assault immediately or lay siege for a turn to send a unit to knock out the college?

Just go for it. The first turn is only a letter writing campaign. When you have it you can destroy the building if you want to go that route...

The rebellion won’t come before the third turn. If you can’t stop it you jump over the border the turn before and it generates fewer forces.

Hmm, rebellions ARE pretty darn massive in this game, but I've never run into any problems with rebellions. I rarely ever get any rebellions at all, and when I do I find that a well-rounded army with artillery support will make short work of any rebel armies. Unless you guys are all playing on very hard or something like that ...

Originally Posted by Red Hue

When you have it you can destroy the building if you want to go that route...

That's provided you have the troops to spare to defend the dismantling process. If you couldn't get troops to the target to knock it out, then what will stop the enemy halting your demolition work?

I find the huge veteran and fully equipped rebel armies very unrealstic and just annoying. That's why I created a mod the dumb them down - try it if you haven't already http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=378923

Yes, and that mod is fantastic, made my game a lot more enjoyable, cheers mate