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    Icon1 A new trick against the Mongols?

    We all know that fighting the Mongols can be both difficult and tedious. And while horesarchers are bad, the armies with the trebuchets are the worst, in my opinion. A few trebuchets can easily cancel every advantage you might have through bridges og citywalls.
    I have discovered what, I hope, is an unknown method of regaining the upper hand.

    Take 3-4 cavalry units (they don't need to be full), and attack the mongol army with the trebuchets. Yes you heard me. Attack a full Mongol stack with only 3 cavalry units .
    Now, when you placing you're units before battle, position them where you know the holes between archers and the wide horsearchers, will be. It will look something like this:
    ------------------T G T
    HA HA ---- AAAAAAAAA ---- HA HA

    ---------you --------------- you

    I hope the illustration makes sense. When battle begins, immediately run the cavalry through the gaps, and double back and charge the trebuchets.

    Now this might take a few tries, and it certainly isn't easy, but you can make it a lot easier if you can spare a generel for the job. Simply place him at the front line and as soon as the battle begins, run him towards the corner farthest away from the enemy. This should result in him being chased, and the AI simply dosen't care about neither you cavalry nor their own trebuchets. When the trebuchets are done for, your general should be in the corner with all hell about to crash down upon him. At this point, you just flee him off the field. Result: no more enemy trebuchets, and all you've lost are a couple of cavalry units. More than a fair deal, if you ask me.

    If this is a well known tactic, feel free to tell a noob like me to shut up If not, have fun with it.

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    Default Re: A new trick against the Mongols?

    Never thought of trying something like that before, sounds very risky...

    But it must be like you said, that it requires practice.
    I suppose that you only attack with a general and 4 units of knights (or something likely) in the field.
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    Default Re: A new trick against the Mongols?

    It is new to me, although it probably is a consequence of how the game handle battles. You can't set specific objectives thus you will always lose despite achieving your goals. The consequences of losing in the game can be painful. Your general may gain negative traits although he really ought to gain points to StrategicSkill and it is hard to predict where your army may retreat to.

    Alan Light Cavalry or other fast moving cavalry might be great for such a mission.

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    Default Re: A new trick against the Mongols?

    Quote Originally Posted by painter View Post
    It is new to me, although it probably is a consequence of how the game handle battles. You can't set specific objectives thus you will always lose despite achieving your goals. The consequences of losing in the game can be painful. Your general may gain negative traits although he really ought to gain points to StrategicSkill and it is hard to predict where your army may retreat to.

    Alan Light Cavalry or other fast moving cavalry might be great for such a mission.
    For some reason, it seems the generals loyalty is what's most likely to drop.

    As for what cavalry one should use, I favour Heavy Cavalry because of the very effective charge. They are also able to take more punishment from the Mongol arrows before dropping.

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