Collapse of Thought

[Hotdog]

Sometimes I seem to get to a point wherein I just don't care anymore. Everything seem ridiculous and selfish. All logic can be applied, but to no aliment. The world seems a constant source of madness. But the ego of my mind grabs hold and pushes the justification of self, which always seems to lead to a hypocritical resolve. The odd part of it all is that excepting the collapse of reason can be a sweet as a climax. It seems simplest to care not for you or anything. I was taught in a world of prejudices to these value attributes of inconsistency. Which makes it feel a illness of mind to reject the normal thoughts. It is as if nothing amounts to anything, and everyone manipulates to get their desires. One man must account to all the lines and names that said I am right. I must respect, because of the unknown that creates the gap in my reason. Becuase of uniscient mind I cannot act my own will. In short, all of the *****ing on these forums sometimes disgust me.






Heel to my reason hedonist, salute for my honour

[Hotdog]

I take rebuke my harshness to these forums. My appoligies of signaling out a single source. At least I am premitted to place my minds for critisizm to video game fellows. For that I am grateful. But brace strong to my ideas.

[Nihil]

Hotdog, you are my new favourite poster. With a bit of effort and commitment, you could become TWC's greatest authority on weirdness. I am deadly serious.

Good luck, and godspeed!

[Jesus The Inane]

Hotdog, you are my new favourite poster.

Hotdog, are you going on about on how little sense existance makes?

Sometimes when I think a lot of about life and how the world works, I too experience something of a "collapse in thought" in which little make sense.

[Nihil]

Heh heh, I knew that would upset you, Jesus. Some day you'll understand. :wink:

[Atheist Peace]

Heh heh, I knew that would upset you, Jesus. Some day you'll understand. :wink:

Yes, yes, I get the message loud and clear Nihil!

I'll just go quietly.

[Ummon]

Besides, existence makes sense, just not the one you were expecting, Hotdog. But that is your fault, not existence's. :wink:

[over-man]

This is easy.
The hard part is finding a reason to except reason back into your life.

[Tom Paine]

Collapse of thought and collapse of logic, collapse of typical or normal thought and collapse of all thought, are very different prospects; I can deal with one (hey, much of thought isn't logical anyway) and the other, collapse of all thought, I just can't contemplate... And the gap in reason is where real thught begins, where you actually exercise your mind to its limit, the space between preconception and reality.

[Hotdog]

After living my dream of never working again, I find myself intrusively awaken to a meah average reality of labors. I come to understanding everyday why men seek a living in the wilds. I can ignore and mishape my conception of living when I am left to my propositions. Marooned in a city of wage earning, there can be no compensations for the only thing I own, short time.

[Denny Crane!]

Hotdog your posting is slightly nonsensical, stop trying so hard to sound wierd. If you have serious ideas put them forward in a serious manner, your not the dalai llama.

Oh and IMO looked at your profile, if you are only 21 its a little young to be making judgements on the world even from your own perspective. People in this country have it exceptionally easy for the most part, I feel hard done by and short of time working a 50+ week till I talked to satchiko in Tokyo who commutes a 3 hour round trip and sometimes doesn't get home till 12 then is up again at 6. Thats just another western country we should all feel exceptionally lucky we have food and drinking water every day. On my meager wages I fit into the top 12% most wealthy people in the world as do most others earning £15k a year or above. Instead we whine about our lives aren't satisfying and go to shrinks, the western culture can make a person very cynical.

can be no compensations for the only thing I own, short time.

Give it all up, sell it all and go live "in the wild" with the people in say, kenya or eithiopia or nepal. Not quite as satisfying as you might think, you might find life in the west and in the cities is its own compensation.

Peter

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Back to the topic, I kind of understand where he's coming from. Sometimes I just think about what I'm doing, if I died my family would mourn for a year tops, remember me on the anniversary every year for about ten years, then just my sisters and my parents talking about me to other relatives... Makes sense that I should live every moment like its my last. But when is my last moment? If only you could know.

[Darth Wong]

Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die.

[Hotdog]

Realities of existence is a tricky topic. The whole complaint I make is that not every person is satisfied with standard. That is about the best defence I have for my ideas, and I feel it is a considerable plause. I never pretend to have knowlege, but it is industrious not to make statments when you have thoughts in your head.

Dear Peter, I beg your forgiveness if I am false about anything I have said. I challange you to show me my oversight for my own betterment. May I presume your two year advancment upon my age is to short a gap to make judgements? I believe people should make judgements of their lives at the moment they are brought to being. I am at a quater of my span, I have much to make up for. When I awake and am eighty years of age, it will feel like to this morning.

[Denny Crane!]

Dear Peter, I beg your forgiveness if I am false about anything I have said. I challange you to show me my oversight for my own betterment. May I presume your two year advancment upon my age is to short a gap to make judgements?.

What judgements am I making? I meant to say 21 is to short to decide the world as you know it is worthless, I didn't say 23 is old enough its not and so I don't.

I believe people should make judgements of their lives at the moment they are brought to being. I am at a quater of my span, I have much to make up for. When I awake and am eighty years of age, it will feel like to this morning.

"it will feel like to this morning" What?

If you don't like something about your life change it, interesting though that someone would feel that the western way of life is so worthless. Like I said in my first post sell everything you have and go and live in a third world country it might give you some appreciati\on for this "mean average reality of labours". Or better yet get off your ass and get a job you enjoy.

Peter

[LSJ]

Some people just talk differently than others. If you met me in person you would think I am lying about who I am. I type with understandable English, using common forms of writing. You might think I am a serious prophet if you heard my gibberish. Maybe its because here I write and can edit my words. In person I say those words and once unleashed I have no control over their interpretation. Also, you get to read over this several times and poke fun at my occaisional bad grammer, whereas you hear sound once and it is gone. Perhaps this is the opposite for "Hotdog", where the sound is normal, but writing it down allows for clearer sortment of thoughts?

Anyway, I have issues with the world every week. I get over it, but some things always keep me annoyed, such as how we must always work to live. We require money for food and clothes. We are expected to work for someone who probably doesn't care for us, but just wants the money to fix the need for more material brought on by heightening to the next level of heirarchal needs, which is only so because of money. If we were allowed to live for free, and only had to work for things we couldn't make ourselves, then it could be better. We are arrested for sleeping in a forest that is "owned" by a man who will never use it yet keeps the native animals out.

Our society makes no logical sense, and it never will. It may to you, but that is because you accept it as logic (in my mind). Actually, nothing makes sense to me, so sometimes I stop thinking. Why bother pondering on things which will never bear an answer?

[glorfindel87]

Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die.

And why is the world not a hell? If this is all there is, then why not? And why stop you from doing it? Why? Why? The eternal question.

[Darth Wong]

And why is the world not a hell? If this is all there is, then why not? And why stop you from doing it? Why? Why? The eternal question.

Other people stop you from doing it if you will mess up their lives in the process. That's how society works.

[glorfindel87]

Other people stop you from doing it if you will mess up their lives in the process. That's how society works.

Then why do not the strongest rule the earth? Why does not everyone live every man for himself? Why is there society if there is no reason for it? Why is the world not total anarchy?

[Darth Wong]

Then why do not the strongest rule the earth? Why does not everyone live every man for himself? Why is there society if there is no reason for it? Why is the world not total anarchy?

Do you really think that conclusion follows logically from the premise of enforced social co-operation being the foundation of morality? Or are you just trying to ignore any explanation for the way the world works that doesn't require God?