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    It should be unnecessary to speak of such things. We speak of them only because for a few decades a crazy era ignored, blasphemed and mocked these greatest, most beautiful and purest dreams of life. This was an age that made the idol of money supreme and said: "The world should be governed not be what serves life, but rather by what some fool of an accountant decides is best." We know the results. The great laws of life were evaluated according to money sacks and checkbooks. When we think back on our parents, grandparents and great grandparents, there were many children in the house. It may have been crowded and hard financially, but we were happy, perhaps because there were so many of us in so large a family. But the time came when people said: "As man or woman, as parents or teachers of leaders, you have the duty to show the people the way to a better future." That better future, people thought, could only be a richer future, a future in which the individual had more money. And when they were asked where this money would come from, a false teaching arose in the last century: "The fewer people there are, the more an individual child can inherit from his parents." He who loves his children and wishes a prosperous future for his nation should therefore see to it that Germany's population is small, and that only a few children continue the family after he is gone. That was the terrible teaching of birth control, which Marxism preached and the bourgeois followed. No one dared stand against it. That was the doctrine that made us what we are today:

    a dying people,

    in which fewer children are born each year, in which today more people die each year than are born.
    This all was supposed to lead to a happy future. It understood happiness only in terms of possessions. It was therefore inherently false. But even in its own terms it was false, for it forgot something:

    When a people begins to die, when a people no longer obeys the laws of life, when a people values money more than its existence and posterity, this people is on the path to disaster, both historically and politically. Within a few decades it will be dead, oppressed by other peoples who are stronger, closer to life, and who follow life's laws better than we.

    If present trends continue, by the end of the century Germany will be a nation with only 40-50 million inhabitants,
    and we know that on our borders other peoples are growing quickly and strongly. Sooner or later, these other peoples will come in conflict with a shrinking and dying German people, and the result of the supposed doctrine of happiness will be a hard and bitter
    national death for our children.
    I say Jewish domination intentionally, for there is no more dreadful tyranny than when world Jews enslave their host people through their willing, bribed, and obedient democratic lackeys.

    Revenge for centuries in the ghetto dominates your thinking, guides your decisions, and dictates your actions.
    source: Nazi Propaganda 1933

    now for referrence to today.
    look at the "Wake up europe, you have a war on your hands"thread

    Wake up europe.
    we've been down this road before

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    Wake up europe.
    we've been down this road before
    Yeah, the mongols did nearly beat us.

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    Honestly, this should be closed. Or better, not.

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    A masterful counter-argument. I suppose censorship is the new freedom?
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    Infact as I said: better not. But if you ask my opinion, stupid threads like these, can do no good whether you discuss them or not. Only, it is better to let any single reader understand it on his own.

    Why I say stupid?

    By the logics of this thread, the statement: "Nazism is evil", is Nazism. Good luck to anyone unintelligent enough to think this.

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    No. You are wrong.

    Hey, this style of debating is much easier, isn't it?

    In reality, all this thread says is that; there are certain parallels between the source and the position taken by many of the people posting inflammatory statements towards Islamic immigration, namely that the "European culture" is being weakened by humanitarian ideals and will be submerged and assimilated by the more vigorous and intolerant Islamic ideals. Just because there are some parallels, doesn't make it an exact copy. You are free to disassociate yourself with the xenophobic culture of the past, but, in your heart of hearts, understand that your doctrine is essentially the same.
    Now, the question being, was the ideals of Nazi Germany essentially evil, or was it just that the methods and extremes to which they went to achieve their aims were cruel and disproportionate? Think on that. Wilful ignorance does not benefit anybody.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfTheIsles
    No. You are wrong.

    Hey, this style of debating is much easier, isn't it?

    In reality, all this thread says is that; there are certain parallels between the source and the position taken by many of the people posting inflammatory statements towards Islamic immigration, namely that the "European culture" is being weakened by humanitarian ideals and will be submerged and assimilated by the more vigorous and intolerant Islamic ideals. Just because there are some parallels, doesn't make it an exact copy. You are free to disassociate yourself with the xenophobic culture of the past, but, in your heart of hearts, understand that your doctrine is essentially the same.
    Now, the question being, was the ideals of Nazi Germany essentially evil, or was it just that the methods and extremes to which they went to achieve their aims were cruel and disproportionate? Think on that. Wilful ignorance does not benefit anybody.
    But I never said "more vigorous", I never said "assimilated", I never said anything about "European culture" or worse, "race", and most of all I have never said anything by "being weakened by humanitarianism". Infact, the two threads are completely unrelated. It is not humanitarianism which damages Europe, but the absurd concept that all ideas are equal. Not all ideas are equal, sadly.

    What I said is: rationalism is a late and useful achievement, let's not import back obscurantism, racism, apartheid and religious fanaticism in Europe, in a form which is probably worse than that we have produced ourselves, when there is absolutely no need for it.

    Why make me lose time clarifying the obvious?

    Quote Originally Posted by Custor
    It worked.
    Exactly why todays scum use exactly the same themes.
    Most peoples do it, Yugoslavia being a nice recent reminder. Luckily the majority of people are intelligent enough (most of the time) to see that the rhetoric is as empty as the hate mongers heads.
    You'd be surprised by how little your comments relate with me or my ideas.

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    It worked.
    Exactly why todays scum use exactly the same themes.
    Most peoples do it, Yugoslavia being a nice recent reminder. Luckily the majority of people are intelligent enough (most of the time) to see that the rhetoric is as empty as the hate mongers heads.
    ...but I think Germany with home advantage will raise their game as always for the big ones and win the title. Post #260

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    The Ideals and Philosophys of the Nazi are not evil but the way they carried out things were. It is not Nazi ideology to commit mass genocide its that himmler and the SS went to far but many of the Nazi policy were sain and smart and i think more countries shoudl adopt them to a CERTAIn extent.I dont meen gassing certain races bu to a certain extent i do believ in a master race as only the strong will and so survive.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Vincenzo Morello
    The Ideals and Philosophys of the Nazi are not evil but the way they carried out things were. It is not Nazi ideology to commit mass genocide its that himmler and the SS went to far but many of the Nazi policy were sain and smart and i think more countries shoudl adopt them to a CERTAIn extent.I dont meen gassing certain races bu to a certain extent i do believ in a master race as only the strong will and so survive.
    I beg to differ.

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    Ummon....I wasn't specifically referring to you with the below comments. The article that started the other topic was specifically based on the premise that a more vigorous islamic culture has successfully infiltrated French society better then in the first century, and is now in the process of tearing it down, in order to replace it with their ideas, whilst a failing, weak French government, held back by politicking and humanitarian goals of ''a spirit of dialogue and respect".

    I assume, because you took issue with the thread, you consider yourself one of the people to whom I refer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingOfTheIsles
    Ummon....I wasn't specifically referring to you with the below comments. The article that started the other topic was specifically based on the premise that a more vigorous islamic culture has successfully infiltrated French society better then in the first century, and is now in the process of tearing it down, in order to replace it with their ideas, whilst a failing, weak French government, held back by politicking and humanitarian goals of ''a spirit of dialogue and respect".

    I assume, because you took issue with the thread, you consider yourself one of the people to whom I refer?
    I merely consider myself an opponent of unregulated Islamic immigration in Europe, and the one to whom Bigfooted was referring to in the first place.

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    Not with Nazis. Not with Communists. Not with Islam.

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    Well im not with nazis but im a fascist but what im saying is the ideals were not evil but the way they went about fulfilling them were. I agree no stand with islam when it comes to europe



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    I am not with fascists either.

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    so what are you, you must be some where on the scale. Glad to see that you acknowlage the difference between Fascist and Nazi as some do not.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Vincenzo Morello
    so what are you, you must be some where on the scale. Glad to see that you acknowlage the difference between Fascist and Nazi as some do not.
    I am with justice, equality whenever not unjust, brotherhood between men and women alike, recognition of merit, freedom, and respect of truth, but not with weakness in the face of evil, and fear of being judged by masses for doing what is right.

    As for affiliations, I take them, and not give them.

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    i like the sound of that mate.You sound as though you know what your on about and for that i respect what you say and your political viewpoints.



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    When a people begins to die, when a people no longer obeys the laws of life, when a people values money more than its existence and posterity, this people is on the path to disaster, both historically and politically. Within a few decades it will be dead, oppressed by other peoples who are stronger, closer to life, and who follow life's laws better than we.

    If present trends continue, by the end of the century Germany will be a nation with only 40-50 million inhabitants
    today.

    Germany

    Population: 82,443,000

    "9% of the population is not ethnically German."

    This is also, after a world war

    source

    anyone care to do the math?

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    My prediction: Europe slowly declines until one country leads a resurgence of Nazi ideaology and either Europe unites in an attempt to take over the world, or it is engulfed in war between the Nazi and "race traitor" nations.
    Either way, white people if we don't go extinct will lose our domination of the world.
    Oh well, it's been a good few centuries.





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