One step general

[[Celtíbero]Mencey]

I've searched for something related to this but couldn't find it in the last 12 pages of this thread, sorry if it has been mentioned before.

We are playing a hotseat and the moorish player reports one of his generals just can walk one "step" in his turn. Looking at his traits, everything seems ok, the only one that could seems to affect is "Unhealthy", but it says just that he has -1 hitpoints, nothing about movement. He has no scurvy nor pneumonia. What may be happening? Here is the FULL movement range of the unit at the beginnig of the turn:

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[SoCCo]

usually this happens to me with 5-15 years old generals that are to young to be able to act as real generals ( except the turn they turn 5 )

what ss do u use, what submods

[[Celtíbero]Mencey]

are you serious? 5 years old generals? I've yet to see one...

[Meneth]

are you serious? 5 years old generals? I've yet to see one...

It's a feature of one of my sub-mods, Live Long and Prosper. Since you haven't seen any, you're probably not using it
You might have an old merchant in the army. That can slow down armies a lot.

[PerXX]

You might have an old merchant in the army. That can slow down armies a lot.

A good shout. Doesn't look like the Agent tab is highlighted though, so that's probably not it.
Could he be a Rebel? As in, if the Faction Leader has the trait 'Offends the Nobility', some Generals might become Rebels, causing massive unrest if in a town, and little to no movement.

[[Celtíbero]Mencey]

thank you very much for your answers.

You might have an old merchant in the army. That can slow down armies a lot.

We are at turn number 11. Is it possible that player has so old merchant at this time?

[Hyaweh]

for 6.3, the sub mod LLP make generals come at age at 5, for education purposes(they make great governors if they actually surpass the young traits that nulls them down till age 16)

it's hotseat, so it must be some weird bug if it ain't some mod bug

[Meneth]

Could he be a Rebel? As in, if the Faction Leader has the trait 'Offends the Nobility', some Generals might become Rebels, causing massive unrest if in a town, and little to no movement.

That can only happen while in a settlement, but it might sometimes be possible to move the general out, one step at a time.

We are at turn number 11. Is it possible that player has so old merchant at this time?

Depends on the time-scale. At 1TPY a merchant might become slow in just 11 turns, though likely not that slow.

[[Celtíbero]Mencey]

any idea how to avoid it?

The moorish player reports he is observing that many of his generals are showing a lack of movement (not so extreme) and he can not find the exact cause, not likely to be related to a trait. He has just invaded most of the iberian península. Maybe there is sort of "exhaustion" penalization or something?

[Meneth]

It almost has to be a trait, but it might be hidden.

[Paladin94610]

He may be using BGR.

[[Celtíbero]Mencey]

It almost has to be a trait, but it might be hidden.

Ah I see. You mean that altough, i.e. he has pneumonia, the game is not showing it?

What does BGR stands for?

thank you again

[Meneth]

BGR is Byg's Grim Reality.
Yes, some traits don't show up in-game, but I can only think of AI-only traits that slow movement and are hidden.

[[Celtíbero]Mencey]

I understand he will have to go on with the lame one...

thx anyway

[[Celtíbero]Mencey]

Well, Houston, we do have a problem. Next turn has come, and 7 moorish generals can't move!

[[Celtíbero]Mencey]

Ok I'll ask the player to send them to me, but please notice that in the next turn:

Well, Houston, we do have a problem. Next turn has come, and 7 moorish generals can't move!

[[Celtíbero]Mencey]

Here is the unplayed .sav of the Moorish Caliphate. The pass is morox

There are 9 generals that can't move.


http://www.filefront.com/17648344/SS_Moorish_11.zip

[bɑne]

Here is the unplayed .sav of the Moorish Caliphate. The pass is morox

There are 9 generals that can't move.


http://www.filefront.com/17648344/SS_Moorish_11.zip

Topic moved to bug reports & tech help.

Am I assuming correctly that the console is locked?

[[Celtíbero]Mencey]

Yes it is.

[Meneth]

Something is definitely messed up.
You could try looking at the log. If it's a trait, it triggering should be in there somewhere.