TATW won't start!

[SarouSaREN]

Well... i've already posted this same problem on two other websites but my comments dissapeared or I just can't find them because i'm bad at searching. Anyyyways, when I try to start my game a little box pops up first with white text in it and a black backround but dissapears about half a second later, then the game opens and the screen goes black as the game loads then it instantly closes and does not give any explanation to what happened. No "Error" signed or "Unexpected Crash", it just closes.
There could be PLENTY of things wrong, i'm not even sure if its all in the right place but I followed the initial instructions and i just need guidance from a person who knows what their doing... thanks.

[Nirnaeth Arnoediad]

Simple questions :
1) Did you install in past the 1.x versions ?
2) Have you windows vista/7 ?
3) Did you launch successfully in past the 2.1 version ?
4) Have you install submods for TATW ?

Don't forget you need to have :
- medieval II + Kingdoms
- at least one campaign of Kingdoms installed
- installed the first and the second parts of the 2.0 version (+ the 2.1 for confort).

[SarouSaREN]

Simple questions :
1) Did you install in past the 1.x versions ?
2) Have you windows vista/7 ?
3) Did you launch successfully in past the 2.1 version ?
4) Have you install submods for TATW ?

Don't forget you need to have :
- medieval II + Kingdoms
- at least one campaign of Kingdoms installed
- installed the first and the second parts of the 2.0 version (+ the 2.1 for confort).

1: No I only have the 2.0 patch
2. I have Windows 7
3. No I just installed it on Sunday
4. And I don't even know what a submod is.. (lol)

I have Medieval II and Kingdoms
I have all of the campaigns installed
and I aven't installed 2.1

[Jean=A=Luc]

Disabled the UAC?

Just so it's clear you don't need the 1.x versions so don't download them hoping they'll fix your problem.

Are you sure your install path was correct, you didn't install tatw into one of the campaign folders or something like that?

[SarouSaREN]

I don't really know what UAC is.. (YEah i'm not good with computers ._.)
Also I installed it into the mods folder, the Medieval II folder is in Programs\Sega\Medieval II\mods\Third_age
The mods folder is also where all my other campaign folders are, (Americas, Teutonic, etc)

[Jean=A=Luc]

Follow this steps to disable the UAC: http://www.blogsdna.com/1815/how-to-...build-7000.htm

You'll also learn what it is. It often interferes with installation or unpacking of files though I can't guarantee it is the source of the problem. You may need to reinstall tatw as well. Your install path was correct.

The way it crashes for you is reminiscent of the way the game CTDs when a critical file has been edited in a way that the game cannot read it. Possibly some file corruption occurred along the way which may be solved by disabling UAC and reinstalling. A corrupt download is also possible but seems unlikely.

You should also check out the error log in "\SEGA\Medieval II Total War\logs". Any error would most likely be listed at the very end (or bottom) of the file. You could copy/paste what it says.

[SarouSaREN]

Ok, I disabled the UAC, and I can't find any error log, i looked threw all the files I could in the game and did a search but it found nothing :/ I think it may not report the error because no error sign even comes up. I'll uninstall Third Age and try re-installing it again into the same file, one last question though:
Under properties in my thirdage are these paths right?--
Huh.. well while I was looking for the right file I tried launching it with the "Launcher" application and it said this: "Application has generated an exception that could not be handled. Process id=0xdf0 (3568), Thread id=0x1740 (5952)."
Anyways are these paths right: "Target:"C:\Program Files (x86)\SEGA\Medieval II Total War\mods\third_age\Third Age.bat""
"Start in: "C:\Program Files (x86)\SEGA\Medieval II Total War\mods\third_age""



PS: I won't be able to respond because I will most likely fall asleep by then (10:37pm Germany)

[SarouSaREN]

ok.. I'm trying to re-install it and now when I try to save it in the folder it says "You do not have permission to do this, contact your administrator to obtain permission" Well.. first of all I am the administrator. Second of all I am the only one who uses this computer, so who else could be the administrator!? ._. (Will it work if I save it in a different file then move the complete folder into MWII? And does it make a difference if I use "Run" instead of "Save" when downloading?)

[SarouSaREN]

Forgot to add this too: What does capacity percent mean? I can choose from severeal areas to download it all from different websites. Do I want a higher or lower capacity? (Max = 202% Lowest=0%)

[LittleDwarf]

I have similar problem but instead of black screen, my TATW loads just fine, shows the TATW 2.1 scren with spinning ring as a curor and then just... exits. And no errors/communicats. It happened after installing 2.1. I already disabled UAC.

[LittleDwarf]

BUMP.

Help, please.

[LittleDwarf]

B
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M
P.

I want to play. Come on, there's like 50 men on this forum at the moment, some of you must know how to fix it.

P.S. If some mod is bored, you can delete previous posts.

[Stylix]

@LittleDwarf

I am sorry that you are having trouble getting the mod to run. I need some more information and then I will see if I can help.

1. Does M2TW run?
2. Does M2TW + Kingdoms run?
3. Have you patched Kingdoms to v1.05?
4. What operating system are you using?
5. Is this a boxed or Steam version?
6. Have you disabled UAC?
7. Have you 'killed' the advisor?
8. Can you launch Custom or Quick battles?
9. Have you installed the v2.1 patch?
10. Have you read the 'TATW 2.1 BUG REPORTS /// KNOWN BUGS & BUG FIXES /// READ FIRST POST BEFORE POSTING' thread?
11. Have you read the 'TATW Links For Mod & All Patches & Instuctions How to Install !!!' thread?
12. Have you read the 'Before posting: How to fix stability, Vista, Win 7 issues (incl. fatal graphics errors) and broken savegames' thread?
13. Have you checked your system.log.txt file?
14. Have you deleted the map.rwm file?
15. Have you at any time unpacked M2TW or Kingdoms files?
16. Does your Third Age.bat file contain these lines:

cd ..\..
start kingdoms.exe @mods\Third_Age\TATW.cfg

17. Does your TATW.cfg file contain these lines at the beginning:

[features]
editor = true
mod = mods/Third_Age
[io]
file_first = true
disable_file_cache = true

I am sorry if you have already answered or provided information to some of these questions, but it is a lot of important information that must be provided in order to find a solution and usually others are waiting for help also. I am just another user with a lot of time on my hands, not part of the TATW team, but hope to share my experience with others to enable them to enjoy this remarkable mod.

[LittleDwarf]

1.Yes
2.Yes
3.Yes.
4.VISTA
5.Boxed
6.Yes
7.Don't i have to enter the game to do this?
8. I can't even properly open the game (it shows the mains screen but then exits)
9.Yes, the problem appeared after that.
10.Yes
11.Yes
12.Yes
13.No
14.No
15.No
16.Yes
17.Yes

[Stylix]

@LittleDwarf

This is the link for 'kill advisor':

Kill Advisor Link

I forgot to ask:
Do you have any other mods installed?
Have you tried to 'Run as administrator'?

The next step is to delete the TATW mod folder. Make sure that UAC is disabled (you must restart the computer to complete the disable). Run Kingdoms (no mods).
In the options menu it should show you what version of Kingdoms you are running. Verify that it is v1.05.
Reinstall TATW 2.0. Try to run. If it runs, install v2.1 and let me know the results.

[Durian]

I am having the same problems with starting TATW.

I'm currently running Windows 7 and have played Kingdoms and M2TW with no other mods installed

I'll start TATW through the TW launcher and then launch TATW through that from Squid's kingdom launcher for those who use steam and it will automatically say "Medieval II has suffered a fatal error and will now exit.". The same goes for when I try and start it from the regular M2TW option however, The menu for TATW will show for a brief second and then crash like before.

I have the steam version so I would assume that they are both up to date patch-wise.
I've also disabled UAC completely and reinstalled the mod several times.
I've made sure I installed both Part I and II and the 2.1 patch into the steam M2TW directory.
I've changed the script in the Third Age folder to


[io]
file_first = true
disable_file_cache = true


I've also "killed the advisor".
Usually I've had the problem solved, but its beginning to frustrate me.


I'd appreciate it if someone could help

[Stylix]

@Durian

Welcome to the TWC Forum!

I am sorry to hear that you are having problems installing TATW using Steam. It sounds like you have followed alll the instructions correctly and tried all the fixes and work arounds that I am aware of. Unfortunatly, I am not experienced with the Steam version and rely on others to provide most of the help or insight for problems of that nature. Hopefully someone with Steam experience will respond to your cry for help and provide a solution. You may want to send Squid or another member with Steam experience a private message and request assistance directly. I will monitor this thread and if I discover something, will post it here.

Have you read this thread?

How to play TATW with Steam

[Clark92]

I have downloaded the 2.0 parts one and two and the 2.1 patch but cannot seem to install them.
When I double click to install any of them (they are saved in downloads at the moment) it just seems to load forever and never actually does anything. Nothing comes up, can someone help?

[Kiliç Alì]

Installation can take long.
you double click on the installer and it loads, right? well just wait. if after 1 hour it still does nothing, then you can say you have a problem, but wait for a long time first.

source: personal experience

[YukinoJin]

My Third Age Total War is unable to run, I click the play button and the loading screen shows up for half a second before it forces me back to the desktop