Finland

[jorkka]

I've been following this mod to develop for a while, even though I don't have Napoleon myself. I will, however buy it anytime soon, just to get to try this mod. Therefore, I would like to suggest something.

I believe that Finland is an emergent nation in TGW. (If it isn't, then make at least that.) Due to patriotic and nationalist reasons, but also to make one interesting campaign, I ask if you could make Finland to be playable at the start, as a protectorate of Russia.

In 1914 Finland had a status of autonomous grand duchy with own parliament and language. It had also ideas about independence due to recent russianization campaigns. It had, however, no army.

Finland could be one challenging nation to play as, as they would have to create an army from scrap to challenge their oppressors and become free. Not interestin enough? Finland also waged war of conquest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimosodat) against Russia and got itself into brink of war with Sweden shortly after becoming independent. All that could be recreated, if Finland would be playable from the start.

If that sounds too impossible, I can still help you to create and model Finnish unit roster for emergent Finland. Just ask me if you need any help on something, where my knowledge about finland could come into hand.

[SuperTrooper21]

I agree Finland could be a good addition, Either playable from the start or emergent

[.Mitch.]

At 1914 wasn't the Finish territory controled by the Russians ?

[jorkka]

Yes it was. I am however basing my suggestion on that Finland had great deal of autonomy (due to status as autonomous grand duchy) that could be to some extent be simulated in the game as a protectorate status. I also want to bring an interesting campaign to be playable.

But as I said, this is just a suggestion and historically it is just as correct to let Russia control Finland as province and then make Finland an emergent nation. It's up to you.

[removeduser_23847628374234]

Finnland were relesade from Russia after the war

[aksuduud]

I think that there should be this option that when you succesfully conquer Finland it gives you the option to liberate which would create Finland. And maybe that if Finland is still part of Russia in december 1917 a rebel group appears trying take control of the country and if succesful Finland is born.

[removeduser_23847628374234]

Historicall were Russia forced to relese Finnland. Not by finnish rebels.

[aksuduud]

I know that there wasnt an armed uprising against the Russians but they were not forced to release Finland they did it because that was Lenins order.

[Finlander]

I like this idea.

[Peteriscoolz]

I think Ireland would be a more plausable faction to add since they had a military campaign against the british 1916-1922

[TheGeat]

I've been following this mod to develop for a while, even though I don't have Napoleon myself. I will, however buy it anytime soon, just to get to try this mod. Therefore, I would like to suggest something.

I believe that Finland is an emergent nation in TGW. (If it isn't, then make at least that.) Due to patriotic and nationalist reasons, but also to make one interesting campaign, I ask if you could make Finland to be playable at the start, as a protectorate of Russia.

In 1914 Finland had a status of autonomous grand duchy with own parliament and language. It had also ideas about independence due to recent russianization campaigns. It had, however, no army.

Finland could be one challenging nation to play as, as they would have to create an army from scrap to challenge their oppressors and become free. Not interestin enough? Finland also waged war of conquest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimosodat) against Russia and got itself into brink of war with Sweden shortly after becoming independent. All that could be recreated, if Finland would be playable from the start.

If that sounds too impossible, I can still help you to create and model Finnish unit roster for emergent Finland. Just ask me if you need any help on something, where my knowledge about finland could come into hand.

Quite interesting topic. MEaby the finns could have units that looks like the finnish units in the swedish army. This units looked like swedish units with tophat exept they had gray uniforms instead of blue.

[SuperTrooper21]

And of course they are more badass than the Swedish

[Finnish Rebel]

For obvious reasons I like this idea, but I understand if it isn't done. Still nice to dream, eh?

Perhaps the Finnish army could be modeled after the early Suojeluskunta (Civil Guard) troops? At first Finland would only have access to lower quality militia troops (the first image, taken in 1917) which should be used to drive out the Russian troops stationed in Finland and a bit later could get more professional troops (second image, taken in 1918)?





http://mosinnagant.net/finland/Civil...otoSection.asp

[removeduser_23847628374234]

If you would make Finnland I have an idea for a unit, swedish optional core. They were helping the white side of the finnish civil war.

[SuperTrooper21]

You do know that Finland almost went to war with Sweden early on as a Nation correct?

[removeduser_23847628374234]

You do know that Finland almost went to war with Sweden early on as a Nation correct?

WTF? That would be stupid. I thought Sweden and Finnland had good relations.

[SuperTrooper21]

WTF? That would be stupid. I thought Sweden and Finnland had good relations.

No they really did not, Their relations weren't very good until after the WW2 Era.
In the Winter war the Swedes sold the Finnish too big shells for their artillery guns, some people argue the Swedish did it on purpose but no one really knows.


And yeah Norway was not happy with Finland either.

[Finlander]

Finland would have went to war with Norway also, if I remember correctly.

[jorkka]

So what I would like to hear is what do the mod developers say. Is Finland going to be in this mod, even as an emergent and/or playable in custom battles? If so, then I would have suggestions for Finnish units and other stuff. For example the units should include suojeluskunta -militia, conscripts (as conscription was issued early in 1918, right after becoming independent) and an elite unit, jääkärit (jägers) (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jäger_Movement), and artillery (some pretty light field guns and howizers, Russian models). I can write more in WWI research -thread.

[Aanker]

So what I would like to hear is what do the mod developers say. Is Finland going to be in this mod, even as an emergent and/or playable in custom battles? If so, then I would have suggestions for Finnish units and other stuff. For example the units should include suojeluskunta -militia, conscripts (as conscription was issued early in 1918, right after becoming independent) and an elite unit, jääkärit (jägers) (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jäger_Movement), and artillery (some pretty light field guns and howizers, Russian models). I can write more in WWI research -thread.

Because I'm a Scandinavian, I might want to see Finland playable in custom battles at the very least, but I think that the best way to approach Finland and its civil war would be to make a submod.