Awesome anthems that need to be (re)instituted

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    Dr. Croccer said: December 08, 2010 11:44 AM

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    Post proposed or old anthems that you think should be (re)-instituted.

    A Patriotic Song. The Anthem of Russia untill 2000. I think it sounds far more awesome than the current Soviet one, it's far more grand and majestic and ''Russian'', stemming from Czarist times.



    Wien Neerlands Bloed



    Dutch anthem of the 19th century. Whilst I love the Wilhelmus, this, like the Russian one, simply has a far more grandiose feel that makes it awesome. A lyric change would be best and I'd love to see this reinstituted as some official song, not necessarily the anthem.

    Russian Imperial Anthem

    Brilliant and dramatic.

    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
    Wer niks is, hot kawsones
     

  2. frank_garrett said: December 09, 2010 04:12 AM

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    i loved the japanese anthem when i heard it on the world cup
     

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    shikaka said: December 09, 2010 07:17 AM

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    The present "soviet" anthem is what russians want. The Patrioticheskaya Pesnya always failed in inspiring the people, it always felt unnatural for them.


    I also don't really keep track of 'former' anthems, I only know which I really feel 'fitting' for that particular nation. One prime example is the Italian one.


    When I think about it, I can only come up with the soviet/russian and die stem van suid-afrika/Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika which were changed.
     

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    Lumina said: December 09, 2010 05:45 PM

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    United States old National Anthem, My Country Tis of Thee



    Yes I know it was song from a theme used by many Euro monarch countries at one time, still used by Great Britian, but it does remind us of our colonial roots, and it's far more beautiful than a silly song which sings about a gosh darn flag, sings about the nation itself, people, the treasures, values, which I value more than a stupid flag. But I guess a song about our country is not worth keeping... never liked the fact the Star Spangle banner was sung to a pub song none the less, so American I guess.
    Last edited by Lumina; December 09, 2010 at 05:48 PM.

    "Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless you're scared."
    -- Eddie Rickenbacker (1890-1973)
     

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    Randarkmaan said: December 09, 2010 05:56 PM

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    I think England should adopt Land of Hope and Glory (A patriotic song set to the tune of "pomp and circumstance) as its specific anthem within the United Kingdom, I mean Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland have their own don't they? This would be an excellent occasion to actually bring to the stage an anthem that is actually good. Which most national anthem, including that of my country, are not, they are boring and... boring
    "Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right"
    "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent"
    Salvor Hardin, from Foundation by Isaac Asimov
     

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    Captain Jin said: December 10, 2010 02:25 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumina View Post
    but it does remind us of our colonial roots, and it's far more beautiful than a silly song which sings about a gosh darn flag, sings about the nation itself, people, the treasures, values, which I value more than a stupid flag. But I guess a song about our country is not worth keeping... never liked the fact the Star Spangle banner was sung to a pub song none the less, so American I guess.

    Some stupid flag? Dude, the flag is a symbol of all that you were just talking about. How can you not like a song that is inspired by this flag and was written by a man who was watching a battle in the War of 1812?
     

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    Dr. Croccer said: December 10, 2010 02:30 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by shikaka View Post
    The present "soviet" anthem is what russians want.
    n a 2009 poll conducted by the Russian Public Opinion Research Center and publicized just two days before Russia's flag day (22 August), 56% of respondents stated that they felt proud when hearing the national anthem. However, only 39% could recall the words of the first line of the anthem. This was an increase from 33% in 2007. According to the survey, between 34 and 36% could not identify the anthem's first line. Overall, only 25% of respondents said they liked the anthem.[71] In the previous year, the Russian Public Opinion Research Center found out that 56% of Russians feel pride and admiration at the anthem, even though only 40% (up from 19% in 2004) knew the first words of the anthem. It was also noted in the survey that the younger generation is the most familiar with the words.
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
    Wer niks is, hot kawsones
     

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    Garbarsardar said: December 10, 2010 06:04 AM

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    I cannot believe no one mentioned this:

    No offense to German users, I'm simply referring to the music
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    molonthegreat said: December 09, 2010 06:51 PM

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    I think they should include all the stanzas in the German national anthem because without the two first it's just lame.
    These fine gentlemen's have thanks to their consistent idiotic posts have earned their place on my ignore list: mrmouth, The Illusionist, motiv-8, mongrel, azoth, thorn777 and elfdude. If you want to join their honourable rank you just have to post idiotic posts and you will get there in no time.
     

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    shikaka said: December 10, 2010 01:26 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by molonthegreat View Post
    I think they should include all the stanzas in the German national anthem because without the two first it's just lame.
    Hehe, it would be strange to hear 'Deutchland über alles' in 2010.
     

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    ivan_the_terrible said: December 10, 2010 06:24 AM

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    @OP

    I disagree about the Patriotic Song -- in my opinion it's very generic and unimaginative. That said, the old Soviet anthem isn't my favourite, musically, and the new words aren't as good as the original.

    Musically the Tsarist one is of course the best of all three, but unfortunately doesn't make much sense in the RF. Unless we replace the word Tsar with President... or Prime Minister...:

    Also, I've yet to hear a better rendering than at the end of Tchaikovsky's 1812 overture.

    I agree about the Wien Neerlands Bloed, however.
    Last edited by ivan_the_terrible; December 10, 2010 at 06:27 AM.

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    Dr. Croccer said: December 10, 2010 11:46 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivan_the_terrible View Post
    @OP

    I disagree about the Patriotic Song -- in my opinion it's very generic and unimaginative.
    Well, it is a 19th century opera piece. Hardly the pinnacle of originality.
    Musically the Tsarist one is of course the best of all three, but unfortunately doesn't make much sense in the RF. Unless we replace the word Tsar with President... or Prime Minister...:
    Re-institute the monarchy. Problem solved.
    Also, I've yet to hear a better rendering than at the end of Tchaikovsky's 1812 overture.
    Bit hard to turn that into an anthem though.
    Femke?
    Green leader and part of the opposition for the last 10 years or so. The lyrics are quite not done. The first verse is basically:

    In whom Dutch blood flow through the veins, free from foreign stains.
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
    Wer niks is, hot kawsones
     

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    Påsan said: December 10, 2010 06:54 AM

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    Land of hope and glory is way better than god save the queen. But considering the general lack of nationalism in Britain i dont see anyone care enough for that to happen.
     

  14. Stavroforos said: December 10, 2010 07:08 AM

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    For America, though I think many Americans would be confused by calling America "Columbia."



    For the UK, and for the irony:

     

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    shikaka said: December 10, 2010 08:09 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavroforos View Post
    For America, though I think many Americans would be confused by calling America "Columbia."

    I think the best for the US would be either Fortunate son from CCR or Born in the USA from the Boss
     

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    Lumina said: December 13, 2010 07:40 PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavroforos View Post
    For America, though I think many Americans would be confused by calling America "Columbia."

    Haha I remember that song, commonly sung during the American Civil War by the Union. It is really more of a military song personally though.

    "Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless you're scared."
    -- Eddie Rickenbacker (1890-1973)
     

  17. Stavroforos said: December 10, 2010 07:30 AM

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    Oh, and Canada should go back to this:



    And the Quebecois won't complain because they'll have their own nation.
     

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    Saturn said: December 10, 2010 09:54 AM

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    Taxandrius said: December 11, 2010 04:10 PM

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    Simple


    De Blauwvoet


    or just "Het Vendel Moet Marcheren"

    it's simply the most epic of all songs of the Codex!



    Dutch text
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    1.
    Het vendel moet marcheren,
    want Vlaanderen is in nood.
    Sint Joris geef ons kleren,
    geef ons soldij en brood.
    Dat wij geen koude lijden,
    geef ons de boer zijn wijn,
    Zijn wolhemd en zijn duiten,
    dat kan geen zonde zijn!
    Marcheer, landsknecht, marcheer!
    2.
    Wij slikken stof bij 't wandelen,
    verstomd zijn lied en lach;
    De keizer slikt heel Vlaanderen,
    hij heeft een sterke maag!
    Hij denkt al onder 't kauwen,
    aan nieuwe roem en eer,
    Thuis weent een blonde vrouwe,
    als ik niet wederkeer.
    Marcheer, landsknecht, marcheer!
    3.
    De tamboer slaat parade,
    Sint Joris sterke held,
    Bescherm ons in genade,
    het vendel trekt te veld.
    De pijper wil niet fluiten,
    wij trekken stil en stom,
    Over die groene heide,
    opwaarts naar Berg-op-Zoom.
    Marcheer, landsknecht, marcheer!


    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    1.
    the company has to march
    because Flanders is in danger
    St. George, give us clothes,
    give us our stipend and bread
    so we won't suffer from the cold,
    give us the farmers wine,
    his woollen shirt and his money,
    that can be no sin
    March, Landsknecht, march


    ​
     

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    Treize said: December 10, 2010 11:04 AM

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    Wien Neerlands bloed door d' aderen stroomt van vreemde smetten vrij...
    Hmm, I can see the reactions of Femke already.
    Miss me yet?