Maximum amount of RAm that RTW can handle ?

[TTRouble]

Hi Guys

Just had another 2 CTDs - another one after winning a battle and the second today mid way through a faction turn. I;d been playing the campaign for about 2 hrs on and off when it bugged out which was a good thing as its forced me to stop. Do we know what the maxium amount of memory RTW can handle even with the large address space app installed? At the time of the rash RTW-BI was using 1.73 GB of RAM.

[dvk901]

Hmmmm....it almost sounds like it consumed memory until it crashed. That's about four times what it starts out with, I think.

[TTRouble]

Hi DVK

Yeah I've a feeling the amount of RAM it can access could be causing a high number of crashes, although I should have taken a screen shot of how much ram and CPU the games using at the time. At the time of the end of turn crash - task manager was repoting CPU usage by RTW-BI.exe was 0% but ram being used was 1752744kk. Setup wise - WIn7 64bit, 6GB of RAM and there was 46% free and unused. SW's playing the game with all settings at med so I'm curious to see if hes still getting CTD's and if so what the mem usuage is at the time. I'm going to drop the unit size down to med as well to see what happens and monitor ram usuage.

[swhunter]

Hi DVK

Yeah I've a feeling the amount of RAM it can access could be causing a high number of crashes, although I should have taken a screen shot of how much ram and CPU the games using at the time. At the time of the end of turn crash - task manager was repoting CPU usage by RTW-BI.exe was 0% but ram being used was 1752744kk. Setup wise - WIn7 64bit, 6GB of RAM and there was 46% free and unused. SW's playing the game with all settings at med so I'm curious to see if hes still getting CTD's and if so what the mem usuage is at the time. I'm going to drop the unit size down to med as well to see what happens and monitor ram usuage.

Hi tt, i dropped everything to game preforms specs on the the options page of the game.
By hitting auto for best performance.
also i went to pref. to rise the units to 100 from 80.
But most everything is on med.
later i will post a screen of it.
I have no problems so far with battles, saves, and ctds.
This is on my beta rs2.
I can tell if its over taxing when i move the mouse from right to left easily with no lagging. If it lags i might have a problem.
Units are on med detail, i cant tel the difference anyway, they look awesome! I will report later.

[Beast Within]

what kind of setups do you have my new laptop is coming soon just wondering out of interest what it will be able to do

[swhunter]

Hmmmm....it almost sounds like it consumed memory until it crashed. That's about four times what it starts out with, I think.

DVK what would have to do to upgrade our system?
to make lager battles? You seen my specs.
If you cant rem.i will post them again.
And also will there be a one download for the released version ever?
I know i put everything in the right place.

[swhunter]

Here they are.



This works best for me at this time.
I set the units on large but went to pref. and gave them a little more from 80 per men to 100. So a pike unit would be 150 men i think.
Veg. before usually taxed my game. Made it lag. Before it didn't. But as we added more and more goodies! Well, it was overwhelming.

[Beast Within]

Out of interest what are your computer spec,

ram
processor
graphics card

[swhunter]

Out of interest what are your computer spec,

ram
processor
graphics card

2.79 ghz / 2.00 gb ram.

[Beast Within]

Wow how do you play with that many men on the battlefield does it not seriously lag.

I have

3GB ram
512mb graphics card
2GHz athlon dual core

and i really struggle playing them, that with units on small. granted this is a laptop

so my new laptop will have

6GB ram
1GB Graphics
2.53GHz processor
and a hard drive at 7200rpm so its quicker to load things

[swhunter]

Wow how do you play with that many men on the battlefield does it not seriously lag.

I have

3GB ram
512mb graphics card
2GHz athlon dual core

and i really struggle playing them, that with units on small. granted this is a laptop

so my new laptop will have

6GB ram
1GB Graphics
2.53GHz processor
and a hard drive at 7200rpm so its quicker to load things

Well your higher ram i can imagine will help more.
But i don't know for certain. DVK what are your thoughts?

[Scarrus]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Wow how do you play with that many men on the battlefield does it not seriously lag.

I have

3GB ram
512mb graphics card
2GHz athlon dual core

and i really struggle playing them, that with units on small. granted this is a laptop

so my new laptop will have

6GB ram
1GB Graphics
2.53GHz processor
and a hard drive at 7200rpm so its quicker to load things

The thing is the RTW Engine only uses one core. You have 2x2 Ghz which would sum up to 4 Ghz, but Rome can only use 2 Ghz, which sucks. Now those Ghz are used by the game to calculate the men on the battlefield and what tey're doing, so you would theoretically be better of with a 3Ghz Single-Core Processor. Well, not really beacause there are a lot of other things beside the Ghz thing which count but anyway, I don´t think you´re really interested in reading a whole paragraph about this but I think you get the idea.

I´m also experiencing this right now. My quad-core 2.66 Ghz core2 Desktop system does seem to lag more than my newly-bought 2.4 Ghz i5 MacBook, althought the Macbook only has 2 Cores. That´s due to the fact that the i5 in my Macbook can "Turbo" up to 2.93 Ghz which clearly is what this Game needs.
And sadly, no there´s nothing you can do about it because all this is hardcoded and anyway, adapting the game for multi-core would mean you have to rewrite at least 90% of the engine code.

[apple]

Open "Display Properties" and look for the maximum Screen Resolution. That's what you should use.

[Beast Within]

Edit Post:

i have done that now, which it wasnt originally at the maximum.

but now the question is do i use

X16
X32

?

[swhunter]

Open "Display Properties" and look for the maximum Screen Resolution. That's what you should use.

So mine is correct right apple? On the desk top
Set 1600X900 for battle map res.? What i have right now 1024X768x 32.
Will i need to restart camp.?
I would think so.

[TTRouble]

SW ..

My video settings are basically the same - Huge unit size but everything else is set to medium. During game play fps is usually 25-35 fps, although that can drop to 15fps depending on whats going on. The most number of men in a games has been around 8-9000 - 3 armies each approx 3000+ each.

The actual hardware I'm using:

Core i7 920 @2.6GHZ (Quad core); 6GB RAM, 2 x SATA HD's (system disk 500GB), ATI 4850 512MB GFX card and the OS - Win 7 64bit and latest ATI GFX drivers.

[Beast Within]

Well in that case my new laptop should be able to handle those kind of specifications too

[swhunter]

The huge setting isn't 160 men i used pref. to lower them to 100. So its large to next step to huge.
There isn't any lag, but if over 10,000 it did. I set also in pref for unlimited units on field.
So the a1 will allow more enemies on field. I play from 6,000 to ,9000 is normal now.
Before it was from 10,000 to 12,000 with very little lag.
But all these fx stuff taxed my computer more.
Certain trees i have noticed and veg- slow the game down with the spec that i have.

[Beast Within]

My laptop struggles with 4000 men on the field didnt think there would be that much of a difference, i am right in thinking that you have a 512mb graphics card too, granted yours is nvidia which are usually better then ati, but didnt think that would make that much of a difference and the same with me having a laptop. I couldnt imaging having 6000-9000 men on the field with out have fps at 10

i am amazed at that wow.

[swhunter]

My laptop struggles with 4000 men on the field didnt think there would be that much of a difference, i am right in thinking that you have a 512mb graphics card too, granted yours is nvidia which are usually better then ati, but didnt think that would make that much of a difference and the same with me having a laptop. I couldnt imaging having 6000-9000 men on the field with out have fps at 10

i am amazed at that wow.

i think, i know my video is 8800 nvid. My computer is only 2 years old and this card the same. But i don't know what to do now. since i heard a higher card could cause me more problems?
I just don't know.