The Hellenic States

[comrade_general]

Because he needs to ask for it in the first place .

The man says: "Mods need to be in the Mod Threads forum for at least two months to build community interest before even being considered for a mod forum."

Sorry guys pretty thoughtless if you ask me, since this has been in the works in the Pyrrhic Victory thread for many months.

Otherwise nice work all, especially Lanjane!

[Alast0r]

Yes, 2 months and then be in the Mod Thread main Forum , just die there , with some lame bumps from time to time ... disgusting . Anyway , if people love your work I don't think that being here is a very bad thing . Congrats and keep up the scene .

[Aleksander the Average]

awesome iberians Lanjane!

also you left the .TGA off the texture for the dacian (illyrian) peltast.
(ths/data/models_unit/textures/)

...About thureophoroi... So, what should I do with them?

well... i would model them after heavy peltasts... but with the armor and spear as well as javelins.

obviously you should give them a thureos...

edit: if you've got the time or interest... the ptolomies should get a perched eagle on the sheilds... for macedon a sun with a wreath around it or something... for antigonids and seleucids i have no idea - maybe just blank for all of them if that's easier.

[ninjabanana]

Well, I reinstalled RTW entirely, and after playing THS for about 1.5 hours I think it's safe to say I got rid of the weird loading screen crash. Looks like the problem was me accidentally screwing with the wrong vanilla RTW files.

Also, I have a few humble suggestions:

-First, give Pontus and Atropatene the ability to build Paved Roads
-Perhaps increase the starting population of Massalian cities a little
-I had a third one too, but I can't remember it now. Oh well, I guess it wasn't important then ^^

[Lanjane]

A picture of carthaginian scutarii (with braccae and warm cloak btw). Perhaps they need a bit more skinning, I'm not sure.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

[Sabazios]

About Massalian starting towns. I'm now some 25 years in campaign and Massalia (aswell as Emporion) already has an poulation of almost 10.000 while being my main recruiting cities. I've almost done no enslaving. So I think the growth is going alright. If you want to give one certain city a population bost, just make sure that that city is the only one with a governor before enslaving. (I tend to do this to boost small towns to 2000 pop.)

[debux]

Great work Lanjane, although I can't help to notice you like capes

The only units I kinda disagree with you on are the poeni ones, no matter how awesome they look, they aren't very vanilla-ish
I mean this as a constructive critic, hope you don't take it wrong

EDIT: all poeni new units except scutarii, they look awesome-vanilla-like

[ninjabanana]

About Massalian starting towns. I'm now some 25 years in campaign and Massalia (aswell as Emporion) already has an poulation of almost 10.000 while being my main recruiting cities. I've almost done no enslaving. So I think the growth is going alright. If you want to give one certain city a population bost, just make sure that that city is the only one with a governor before enslaving. (I tend to do this to boost small towns to 2000 pop.)

I'm actually playing a Massalian campaign right now. I'm not that far yet so I didn't know how fast they actually grow, I was just worried about the starting pop. Anyway, I now see there's really no good reason to increase the starting pop, thanks for informing me

[Cinuz]

Great work Lanjane, although I can't help to notice you like capes

The only units I kinda disagree with you on are the poeni ones, no matter how awesome they look, they aren't very vanilla-ish
I mean this as a constructive critic, hope you don't take it wrong

EDIT: all poeni new units except scutarii, they look awesome-vanilla-like

Mh, i agree with both points, the cape and the poeni one..

[Sabazios]

I'm actually playing a Massalian campaign right now. I'm not that far yet so I didn't know how fast they actually grow, I was just worried about the starting pop. Anyway, I now see there's really no good reason to increase the starting pop, thanks for informing me

In which direction are you going to expand?

[ninjabanana]

In which direction are you going to expand?

I've allied with the Gauls and expanded into Iberia. This far I've taken Tolosa, Lugdunum, Osca, Carthago Nova and Corduba. I'm planning on building a powerbase in Iberia.

[Lanjane]

New version of scutarii, more 'vanilla-ish'.

Well, should I release new version of 'minipatch'? (with sailors, iberian spearmen, scutarii, caetrati)

[comrade_general]

Yes, 2 months and then be in the Mod Thread main Forum , just die there , with some lame bumps from time to time ... disgusting .

It can't die, its already had a release. All mods lose posting activity, especially after they're finished, that's why it would make sense to have a forum now while activity is booming.

It's funny how your first post only said I hadn't yet asked for a forum, not that it hadn't been an "official" 2 months, and now you're condemning me for asking and feeling bad that I can't give these guys a sanctuary to work in.

Again good work guys, don't mind this bureaucratic babble.

[Lanjane]

Since we have this thread available, there is nothing to worry about, comrade_general And about separate forum... no sense, I guess.

[Cinuz]

Uhm, what about some reskinning now?

Could you add a muscular bronze cuirass to the pontic officer? This would be great, since it'll put more enfasys to the fact that the pontic nobles were no more just eastern, but even greeks...

A reskin could be done even to the barbarian choosen warband: instead of the vanilla armor (that is literally terrible) you could give them a chainmail like the one the late barbarian general's bodyguards has:

http://s190.photobucket.com/albums/z...onwarlords.jpg

So?

[Lanjane]

Sounds very good, I'll apply those suggestions too.

[comrade_general]

Yes I suppose you are right, Lanjane. I've just become a bitter person lately (not because of anything Total War I promise you).

[debux]

Ok, I finally got the mod to work (corrupt downloads till today), and I gotta say it's very nice. I've only played two turns with massila and it was a nice position, I never thought it could be so proimising. I got a CTD though that made me stop, but I think it might be because of the missing sprites I forgot to put.

@Lanjane, about the vanillish poeni units, my post was going more towards the first two poeni units you posted, I think the first version of the scutarii you posted look awesome and quite vanillish, although they'd leave their spanish counterparts in shame

I wouldn't mind a new unit pack +rep

EDIT: whoopie do, gotta do a whole new clean install: "Script error in THS/data/export_descr_unit, at line 6595, column 26" didn't find battle model for massalian swordsmen when I used them 5 minutes ago

[Sabazios]

I've allied with the Gauls and expanded into Iberia. This far I've taken Tolosa, Lugdunum, Osca, Carthago Nova and Corduba. I'm planning on building a powerbase in Iberia.

Sounds familiar. Although I've only just captured Lugdunum on my way to Alesia, as i used it as an buffer town before. I had my main army going clockwise over Iberia, until I had Numantia in the middle of Iberia as an Gallic reservate. That didnt last. Now i'll take Lemonum, consolidate Gaul and start moving to Italy, where Rome has numerous stacks coming up north after they defeated the Greeks.

Its a fun campaign. I really like the tough rebels. Got my arse kicked in Tingis for example.

[Lanjane]

Here it comes. A very small, but useful update if you play as Carthage



- Added Punic Sailors (available from port)
- Added Carthaginian Scutarii (available from city barracks)
- Added Iberian Spearmen (as requested) to Iberia
- Iberian Infantry replaced with Iberian Caetrati and moved to practice range buildings (and useless Skirmishers removed, as requested. However they still exist in game, but they can't be recruited, so savegame compatible)
- Libyan Infantry moved to Militia Barracks (to freed 'slot' remained from Iberian Infantry)
- Sprites, UI's, text descriptions are provided as usual. Many thanks to Achea for help with text descriptions.

Minipatch v0.01 - http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...05#post8565405 - is required, as this is only an update to it.
Again, it's savegame compatible.