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    Thanks, I'll take a look at them tomorrow.
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    I hope it's not Andalus who is dead...

    I was playing vanilla today (to remeber the vanilla skins and all that) and I thought that maybe it could look something like this:
    Barracks: Militia
    Militia Barracks: Iberian Inf, Lybian Spearmen (+ above)
    City Barracks: Scutarii (make them Carthage whitish), Liby-Poeni Pikemen (the original poeni infantry) (+ above)
    Army Barracks: Liby-Poeni Infantry (kind of the original poeni inf, with slight modifications on shield and armour), Sacred Band (maybe make them spearmen, so that they don't become the inf of the line) (+ above)

    How's that? That way Carthage doesn't depend solely on a phalanx infantry line (what happens with the Sacred Band on vanilla), using sword infantry and relying even more on their strong Cavalry Branch (which I'd also like to mod)

    Sincerely, I'd looooove to do it myself. Just gotta get out of school (15.12)

    Oh, and great find Achea, I find that thing of recruiting mecs on the shipwright great (although I wonder who would ever use barbarian warbands), just coincides with the Army Barracks, which (would) offer mid-range units
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    I hope it's not Andalus who is dead...
    I meant the pack was dead, sorry. And I forgot to mention that the LP Infantry and their heavy counterparts would be equipped with swords, not pikes. That leaves room on the roster for the Poeni Infantry and Libyan Spearmen. So many phalanxes would be redundant.

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    can put together a listing of all the units we want to change/add? (its a little confusing).
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    While I am fairly useless at skinning/modelling, I could assist in text editing for this "community made" patch.

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    I've created a unit of liby-phoenician infantry (merc). Achea, could you please help me with text description?

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    Yes, sure, a very nice suggestion, Cinuz.
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    I would also like to suggest to give to Pontus the greek heavy cavalry or the companions cavalry..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinuz View Post
    I would also like to suggest to give to Pontus the greek heavy cavalry or the companions cavalry..
    as an addition or to replace pontic heavy cavalry or Cappadocian cavalry?

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    A preview of an illyrian hoplite

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    Btw, they need text description too. Who will help?
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    Default Re: The Hellenic States

    I don't think they'll need a special description. You can sue the same the normal hoplites has, and add something like "by the time th emod starts, Illyria was hellenised, so some of the illyrian nobility choose to fight as hoplites" or something as this!

    EDIT - by the way, very nice!!

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    @Lanjane,

    here is the missing unit, (or the wrong placed unit)
    i'm talking about a Hoplite with Macedonian colours who is in Tarentum (owned by Epiros.)

    here is a picture of it,
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    Lucarius, yeah, I know, you've already told about them. It's a wrong placed unit, Epirus can't recruit hoplites.
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    Alright then, just wanted to make things clear

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    I think that I'll add to Illyria special 'hellenized' barracks that can be build instead or as addition to 'regular' barracks. Then they will be able to recruit three additional hellenic units: peltasts, illyrian skirmishers and illyrian hoplites. What do you think of it?
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    Nobody will try to figure it out if you are made of glass or of metal. They'll treat you the same way.
    When you show your strength, you'll find a company of those who want to steal it from you, but your weakness, you'll be all alone with it.

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    in that case massilia should have the option for either hellenic or barbarian barracks.
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    Well, here are all my additions in the single archive. The 'minipatch' will be continuously updating by your requests. So, what is implemented by now:

    - New line of hellenic barracks for Illyria, and 3 additional Illyrian units: greek peltasts, illyrian skirmishers, illyrian hoplites
    - Liby-Phoenician Infantry for Carthage (can be recruited in shipwright)
    - Italic Skirmishers for Epirus
    - Massalian Swordsmen for Massalia

    Preview of all additional units


    EDIT: My misprint; please rename file UNIT_GREEK_PELTAST_DACIA.dds to UNIT_GREEK_PELTAST_DACIA.tga.dds in THS/data/models_unit/textures folder after you installed this minipatch.
    Last edited by Lanjane; December 09, 2010 at 08:24 AM.
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    Nobody will try to figure it out if you are made of glass or of metal. They'll treat you the same way.
    When you show your strength, you'll find a company of those who want to steal it from you, but your weakness, you'll be all alone with it.

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    A Master piece of work Comrade! +rep

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    Thank you

    edit: ah, you meant comrade_general ..)
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    Your work is also very good ! I am a great lover of these models

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