Unspecified Error at new campaign start

**ronnie76** · December 04, 2010, 02:59 PM

Hello all,

I hope someone can help.

I have been making some changes to units in SS6.3. The last thing I tried to edit was removing "Fyrd Spearmen" from the mod. I used the ";" to comment out the unit in the EDU, EDB, and descr_mercenaries. in the decsr_strat, and campaign_script I changed all entries for Fyrd Spearmen to Spear Militia.

When I tried to start a new campaign with any faction I get an error "Medieval 2: Total War encountered an unspecified error and will now exit." So I tried to reverse all of my changes but I still have the error.

I have been trying to decipher the system log but I do not really know how to read it.

Here is the last few lines in my log. Line 31278 is the end of my campaign script

Thanks for any help.

Code:

15:55:29.468 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <monitor_event> at line 31269 in mods/SS6.3/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
15:55:29.468 [game.script.exec] [trace] exec <wait_monitors> at line 31278 in mods/SS6.3/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/campaign_script.txt
15:55:29.734 [system.rpt] [error] Medieval 2: Total War encountered an unspecified error and will now exit.

**attyla** · December 04, 2010, 03:37 PM

What did you change before? It looks like an error in campaign script. Did you make something in this file?

**ronnie76** · December 04, 2010, 03:47 PM

Thanks for replying attyla. The only change I made to the campaign script was the Fyrd Spearmen to Spear Militia. I have now changed that back again, but still have the problem. I even tried commenting out every entry for Spear Militia and Fyrd Spearmen

**attyla** · December 04, 2010, 04:08 PM

give us your changed and restored entry. I cannot imagine how campaign script is connected with specifiet unit

Maybe you tried to change EDU?

one more thing: you should make copy of safety files you are changing or whole mod.

**ronnie76** · December 04, 2010, 04:24 PM

I did change the EDU.
I commented out the Fyrd Spearmen but have recently restored it.

I have backups of original SS6.3 files as well as several backups as I make changes. I think my problem is that I got a little too comfortable these last few times and made three or four changes before backing up.

I am in the process of stepping backwards through the changes to see where the error started.

In order to prevent you from having do any more work than necessary for my mistake I will wait until I find the last working file before I post the working and non-working ones.

Thank you again so much for helping.

**ronnie76** · December 05, 2010, 01:05 PM

I think I found the problem.

When I change the Border Horse Unit to only be available for Scotland I get the error. Here is the change in the EDU.

Code:

;ownership        all; scotland, england, slave
ownership        scotland

Now there is no instance of "Border Horse in the descr_mercenaries file. In the campaign script the only entry is under the Wallace Uprising which I have commented out as follows

Code:

		unit		Highland Rabble	exp 4 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
		unit		Highland Rabble	exp 4 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
;		unit		Border Horse	exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
;		unit		Border Horse	exp 2 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
	end

I also commented out other factions recruit entry in the EDB as follows.

Code:

;        recruit_pool "Border Horse"  0   0.17   2  0  requires factions { venice,  england, france, portugal, spain, aragon, moors, milan, 

papal_states, sicily, hre, norway, denmark, poland, russia, lithuania, cumans, kwarezm, turks, jerusalem, egypt, byzantium, hungary, kievan_rus, 

teutonic_order, mongols, slave, timurids, } and hidden_resource scotland and event_counter pike_and_shot 1

So now my question is what am I missing?

Thanks again so much for your help.

**Gigantus** · December 05, 2010, 10:06 AM

Did you check descr_rebel_factions for that unit?

Compress and uplaod the log, the fatal error doesn't necessarily appear at the end of the log, especially not if the log is set to trace as in your case.

**Ishan** · December 05, 2010, 02:55 PM

@ronnie76
Your errors are:-

Spoiler for Errors:

^These are all simple errors fix them the error itself is self-explanatory.

**ronnie76** · December 05, 2010, 04:47 PM

Thanks for responding Ishan.

I did see the EDB errors an corrected in a previous try but that didn't fix the problem. But I did not see the rebel_factions error and actually did not even know about that file.

Yayhooo!! Problem fixed.

Two other quick questions though.
The EDB errors do not actually cause a CTD. Does the game just ignore them?
Also what does "couldn't find rebel faction(Norse_Rebels), going to set it to (gladiator_uprising)" mean?

Thanks again you have been a huge help as always.

Thanks to everyone for sharing their knowledge and insight.

Regards,
Ronnie

**Ishan** · December 05, 2010, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by ronnie76

Two other quick questions though.
The EDB errors do not actually cause a CTD. Does the game just ignore them?

Yes it causes a CTD a mismatch of ownership between EDB and EDU file gives you a CTD, or like ownership given to a faction that doesn't exists say Engladn<---Spelling error etc.

Originally Posted by ronnie76

Also what does "couldn't find rebel faction(Norse_Rebels), going to set it to (gladiator_uprising)" mean?

It means that in the descr_rebel_factions.txt file(Also has a relevant file in the data\text folder) Norse_rebels doesn't exists and when that happens the game sets it to default gladiator uprising a left over from RTW.
^I'm not sure about this theory though.

**ronnie76** · December 05, 2010, 05:40 PM

I tested it without fixing the EDB errors and it actually works. I played for 12 turns before stopping, so the EDB errors don't cause a CTD for me.

Kind of irrelevant I suppose. They need to be fixed anyway.

Thanks again for the help.

**Gigantus** · December 05, 2010, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by Ishan

It means that in the descr_rebel_factions.txt file(Also has a relevant file in the data\text folder) Norse_rebels doesn't exists and when that happens the game sets it to default gladiator uprising a left over from RTW.
^I'm not sure about this theory though.

That is correct, most of the times the error is caused by an invalid entry in the file (unit doesn't exist, spelling) which voids the entries, thus creating a domino effect.

Unrecognised: 'atlantic' as a region resource class (or hidden resource)

This means you have an entry here that doesn't correspond to the hidden_resources listed in the EDB.

**Ishan** · December 05, 2010, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by Gigantus

That is correct, most of the times the error is caused by an invalid entry in the file (unit doesn't exist, spelling) which voids the entries, thus creating a domino effect.

Thanks Gigantus for confirming it.

Originally Posted by Gigantus

This means you have an entry here that doesn't correspond to the hidden_resources listed in the EDB.

Yes, this error happens when we don't or forget to delete the map.rwm file after placing the hidden resource in the descr_regions.txt file.