what is an islamist ?

[squirel]

What is an islamist? How is an islamist different from being a muslim ?

[Copperknickers II]

Simply put, an Islamist is someone who ascribes themselves to Islamism, the belief that Islam should be spread around the world and non-Muslims should be suppressed.

[squirel]

Simply put, an Islamist is someone who ascribes themselves to Islamism, the belief that Islam should be spread around the world and non-Muslims should be suppressed.

Ok. So a muslim do not support Islam being spread around the world ? Or it is it the two combined (Islam being spread + non-muslims being suppressed) that makes someone being an islamist ?

I also wonder, where does Islamism come from ?


edit - bad grammar...

[Brain_in_a_vat]

Ok. So a muslim do not support Islam being spread around the world ? Or it is it the two combined (Islam being spread + non-muslims being suppressed) that makes someone being an islamist ?

Muslims who do not support the notion that Islam should be spread around the world aren't Islamists. Islamism is the a form of fundamental Islam that adheres strict following of the Qu'ran word for word, and therefore supports world-wide domination by Muslims.

I also wonder, where does Islamism come from ?

The Qu'ran

[Jom]

Simply put, an Islamist is someone who ascribes themselves to Islamism, the belief that Islam should be spread around the world and non-Muslims should be suppressed.

Incorrect.

That is what a radical Islamist would advocate but Islamism itself simply relates to the ideology that Islam is not just a religious belief but also a political system.

Anyway, I think this should go off to the Academy due to the political nature of Islamism.

[Copperknickers II]

Incorrect.

That is what a radical Islamist would advocate but Islamism itself simply relates to the ideology that Islam is not just a religious belief but also a political system.

I knew someone would say that. Technically speaking that is a more accurate definition of what it actually entails, but the simple definition is simply Islamic militancy. If you want to take that up with the Professors of the English Language at Oxford University you are more than welcome.

[removeduser_052420]

Simply put, an Islamist is someone who ascribes themselves to Islamism, the belief that Islam should be spread around the world and non-Muslims should be suppressed.

Wrong. An islamist is one who believes that the state should have islam as it's official religion, and that islamic laws should be used to govern society. Different islamists believe in different things. Some Islamists are not violent.

[Pious Agnost]

That's not all that helpful to the OP then, is it?

Wrong. An islamist is one who believes that the state should have islam as it's official religion, and that islamic laws should be used to govern society. Different islamists believe in different things. Some Islamists are not violent.

You're very much right, but I'd like to emphasise that different Islamists believe in different things.

For example, islamism can be an individual belief that a person is doing good deeds by displaying public piety through things like prayer, dress, and charity. (What is a 'good deed' or 'public piety' also varies among islamists. It is by no means a definite or centralized movement, most of the time you cannot even call it a movement at all)

An islamist does not necessarily believe that the state or laws must be involved. They just believe that Islam itself must be involved.

[The Fishman]

Wrong. An islamist is one who believes that the state should have islam as it's official religion, and that islamic laws should be used to govern society. Different islamists believe in different things. Some Islamists are not violent.

This. Islamism is a modern political movement.

I thought someone who believes in Islam is a muslim....

Yes, but we are westerners so we have to rename everything that the natives have so it fits in with our own narrow spectrum of grammar...

[Pious Agnost]

This. Islamism is a modern political movement.

Not necessarily, that would be political islamism.

There is also personal islamism.

See above.

[Babur]

well Islamism is a reaction to western secularism

[Copperknickers II]

Wrong. An islamist is one who believes that the state should have islam as it's official religion, and that islamic laws should be used to govern society. Different islamists believe in different things. Some Islamists are not violent.

No I'm not Wrong, if you're going to be condescending at least make sure you are actually in the right first.

As I have already said my definition comes from the Oxford English Dictionary, it has nothing to do with what Muslims think it means because we are arguing about English here, a non-Muslim language unlike Urdu or Arabic. I doubt Islamists call themselves Islamists, since it is an exonym which has no bearing on what they themselves believe.

[♔Goodguy1066♔]

Copperknickers summarised it pretty well, you could have simply googled (or wiki'd) it but opening a thread works too.

[Hookah Smoking Caterpiller]

That's what an islamist looks like.

[LSJ]

That's what an islamist looks like.

No, that's what a Kenyan in traditional dress looks like.

[Atterdag]

Sarcasm fail.

[Gromovnik]

No, that's what a Kenyan in traditional dress looks like.

lol, epic...

[Jingles]

How does that bait taste?

[dogukan]

What is an islamist? How is an islamist different from being a muslim ?

People who take Islam as ideology. Mind you these also vary a lot.

[Thema'zandaar]

Islamist:

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• a scholar who knowledgeable in Islamic studies
• an orthodox Muslim
  wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

• A person who espouses Islamic fundamentalist beliefs; A Muslim, particularly an orthodox Muslim; A person who specializes in Islamic studies; Motivated by Islamic beliefs, particularly in the political sphere (eg a supporter of the introduction of sharia law); Relating to Islam, particularly ...
  en.wiktionary.org/wiki/islamicist

• is a term used to identify a Muslim fundamentalist.
  www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/teach/alqaeda/glossary.html <------Click to get a good laugh.
  

Simply put, an Islamist is someone who ascribes themselves to Islamism, the belief that Islam should be spread around the world and non-Muslims should be suppressed.

Epic Fail!