Remove a trait from an existing general

[Stylix]

Does anyone happen to know how to set up a trigger to test a general at the end of the turn and remove a trait from this character. I have tried to modify the export_desc_character_traits.txt file by adding a new trigger which would remove a trait but the only line that I know of to alter a trait is the 'Affects' trait line. I know I can put a negative number in and lower a trait, but how can I remove it completely?

Thank you in advance.

[TNZ]

;------------------------------------------
Trait Despoiler
    Characters family

    Level Looter
        Description Looter_desc
        EffectsDescription Looter_effects_desc
        Threshold  1
        Effect Looting   10 

    Level Pillager
        Description Pillager_desc
        EffectsDescription Pillager_effects_desc
	Epithet Pill2_epi
        Threshold  3

        Effect Looting   20 

    Level Sacker_of_Cities
        Description Sacker_of_Cities_desc
        EffectsDescription Sacker_of_Cities_effects_desc
        Threshold  5

        Effect Looting   30

;------------------------------------------
Trigger remove_despoiler_Looter
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition Trait Despoiler = 1

    Affects Despoiler  -1  Chance  100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger remove_despoiler_pillager
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition Trait Despoiler = 2

    Affects Despoiler  -3  Chance  100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger remove_despoiler_sacker_of_citie
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition Trait Despoiler = 3

    Affects Despoiler  -5  Chance  100

[Stylix]

@TNZ

Thank you TNZ, I will code this shortly and give it a try. I was close in my fumbled attempts but your code really makes it clear. I will post again and give you the results!

Sorry TNZ, no joy. I replaced the trait in your example with the negative trait that I was trying to remove and modified the threshold values to match my negative trait values but instead of removing the trait it made it worse! I have had no problem adding or increasing trait values, just reducing or removing them. Thank you again for your time and effort.

[Squid]

You can always use the give_trait or give_trait_points cheats.

[Stylix]

@Squid

Thank you and I am aware of the console command and thought about adding this to the campaign script using a hot key, in fact I have already done so but must start a new campaign for it to take effect. I am trying to compile some economic data but the governor's keep acquiring negative traits that are skewing my results. I have over 80 regions and am close to the end of the campaign and it takes a long time to check and change every settlement that has a governor every turn. I will continue to hope for a solution and press on for now.

[Gigantus]

Trigger remove_despoiler_Looter ; name of trigger is not important as long as it is unique, helps error solving
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition Trait Despoiler = 3 ; name and level of trait

Affects Despoiler -5 Chance 100 ; name and negative threshold for this level

[Stylix]

Below is a copy of my code from the export_descr_character_traits.txt and it seems to have no effect on the desired trait:

;------------------------------------------
Trigger remove_corrupt_dubious
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition IsGeneral
	and EndedInSettlement
	and not IsFactionAIControlled
        and Trait Corrupt = 3

    Affects Corrupt  -6  Chance  100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger remove_corrupt_underhanded
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition IsGeneral
	and EndedInSettlement
	and not IsFactionAIControlled
        and Trait Corrupt = 2

    Affects Corrupt  -3  Chance  100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger remove_corrupt_corrupt
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition IsGeneral
	and EndedInSettlement
	and not IsFactionAIControlled
        and Trait Corrupt = 1

    Affects Corrupt  -1  Chance  100

[Gigantus]

You mentioned that you had started a campaign already before editing the character_traits file. I am not sure if this file needs a new campaign for the changes to take effect.

Maybe change this line:
and not IsFactionAIControlled

into:
and CharacterIsLocal

[Stylix]

@Gigantus

Thank you for the suggestion and I will give it a try. I have changed the file several times 'on the fly' so to speak (during a campaign) and it works well adding new traits or increasing existing ones, just can't get rid of those pesky traits!

[TNZ]

Stylix: If the ‘Corrupt’ trait has a 'NoGoingBackLevel' line that would stop the trait from being removed.

[Stylix]

Stylix: If the ‘Corrupt’ trait has a 'NoGoingBackLevel' line that would stop the trait from being removed.

It does indeed, that level being 2. Thank you for pointing this out for me. I will perform my study in my next campaign when I can prevent the negative traits from going beyond level 1 and thus (hopefully) allowing me to remove them or to prevent them for occuring in the first place.

You have been a big help! +rep!

@Gigantus

Thanks for your help also and I think you deserve some rep too!