Why is disliking a whole Religion deemed "racist"

[Davebob]

Give me one good reason why Religion deserves more respect than any other myth or opinion.

[Katsumoto]

Well this failed from the get-go: you can't be a racist if you dislike a religion. You's a bigot, not a racist.

[Squiggle]

Well this failed from the get-go: you can't be a racist if you dislike a religion. You's a bigot, not a racist.

big·ot·ry

   /ˈbɪgətri/ Show Spelled[big-uh-tree] Show IPA
–noun, plural -ries. 1. stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own.

2. the actions, beliefs, prejudices, etc., of a bigot


You are not a bigot if you dislike a religion. Religion is a set of ideas like any other, and they are allowed to be criticized and rejected whole sale, like any other. I'm not a bigot if I dislike communism, and I'm not a bigot if I dislike Islam. Not intrinsically anyway, obviously you can refer to someone as bigoted for disliking xyz if they do so blindly and irrationally.

People throw out bigot/xenophobe/racist or whatever to suit their agenda, it has no basis in reality.

[Davebob]

So thinking Religion is idiotic and defies all logic makes you a bigot now? Simply "believing" something that has no basis in logic doesn't make it true, the burden of proof is on religion. The below post pretty much sums up my entire viewpoint on this subject, in better words than I could make.

big·ot·ry

   /ˈbɪgətri/ Show Spelled[big-uh-tree] Show IPA
–noun, plural -ries. 1. stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own.

2. the actions, beliefs, prejudices, etc., of a bigot


You are not a bigot if you dislike a religion. Religion is a set of ideas like any other, and they are allowed to be criticized and rejected whole sale, like any other. I'm not a bigot if I dislike communism, and I'm not a bigot if I dislike Islam. Not intrinsically anyway, obviously you can refer to someone as bigoted for disliking xyz if they do so blindly and irrationally.

People throw out bigot/xenophobe/racist or whatever to suit their agenda, it has no basis in reality.

if you think judisem is a religion your worng. being a jew is about the genetic connection to the ancient isralites. its actually hebrowism while judisem is just the religion

and i know thats what you ment when you mentioned racism.

What are you talking about, and how does this have anything to do with the subject, I just threw out two Religions that people often get labelled as "racist" for criticizing.

[xcorps]

Give me one good reason why Religion deserves more respect than any other myth or opinion.

Give me one good reason why it deserves less.

[Davebob]

Give me one good reason why it deserves less.

It doesn't, it deserves the same, good job completely ignoring the argument.

Well this failed from the get-go: you can't be a racist if you dislike a religion. You's a bigot, not a racist.

Yet people are so frequently labeled "racist" when criticizing Islam or Judaism.

It doesn't make you a bigot either, are you a bigot for not believing that King Arthur was real?

[xcorps]

There was no arguement. Just a sweeping generalization in a single sentence that contained no foundation of thoughtful reflection. Your sentence in fact presents a criticism of religious tolerance, whether intentional or not.

[Col. Tartleton]

There was no arguement. Just a sweeping generalization in a single sentence that contained no foundation of thoughtful reflection. Your sentence in fact presents a criticism of religious tolerance, whether intentional or not.

Yes there was. [Your Vid]

[The Dude]

Because the majority of the world still naively thinks that something is good simply because it is shared by many people.

The label "culture" excuses a lot, unfortunately.

[Davebob]

There was no arguement. Just a sweeping generalization in a single sentence that contained no foundation of thoughtful reflection. Your sentence in fact presents a criticism of religious tolerance, whether intentional or not.

No, if someone believes in a myth, they are deemed an idiot, because most are entirely illogical, so is religion, just because many people believe in Religion, doesn't stop them all being idiots.

[xcorps]

No, if someone believes in a myth, they are deemed an idiot, because most are entirely illogical, so is religion, just because many people believe in Religion, doesn't stop them all being idiots.

Religion is not something you believe in. It is something you practice. Religion is an organization of faith, bound by common belief that those practices are the correct way to express faith.

You cannot demonstrate that every person who has ever practiced a religion is an idiot. I, however, could easily demonstrate that many people who practice religion are high functioning individuals who contribute to society.

Your arguement has shifted from a sweeping generalization to a hasty generalization. Both are logical fallacies.

[Tacitursa]

Not a single intelligent person beleives in there religion because its logical and makes sense. They beleive because they want it to be true. It's no suprise the worlds most popular religions have a good retirement plan and lots of bonuses.

It's the same reason gamblers will put thousands of pounds into slot machines when they know deep down the chances of winning or making a profit is extremely unlikely. WIshfull thinking will damage your thought process to the the point where the brain convinces itself automatically and you get stuck.

It's why its much easier to convince children of religion compared to a fully grown adult with fully developed thought processes. And why people indoctrined from a young age are the most likely to be fanatical and are the hardest to de-convert. Adults in third world countries are much like children and are easy to convert and convince.

If it was illegal to mention or teach people about religion untill they reached adulthood and had a full education, The religious populations would shrink drastically. Just showing people and letting them think for themselves would do it, USA would look alot more like europe in terms of beleif if they stopped spoon feeding and forcing it upon there children and communities. Likewise for the middle east. I think it's interesting that religion is dieing out in countries that dont spoonfeed it to children.

[John I Tzimisces]

I suppose if "myth" and "religion" (organized or otherwise) were the same thing you'd have an argument there champ.

[Phier]

I suppose if "myth" and "religion" (organized or otherwise) were the same thing you'd have an argument there champ.

Todays religion is tomorrows myth

[John I Tzimisces]

Todays religion is tomorrows myth

Eh, yeah, but that's mostly because when nobody is actually practicing a religion anymore, all that's really left of it are the stories once used to demonstrate the values of the people who practice it.

[Phier]

Eh, yeah, but that's mostly because when nobody is actually practicing a religion anymore, all that's really left of it are the stories once used to demonstrate the values of the people who practice it.

My point exactly.

Added unless you practice some new age amalgam religion, it doesn't matter if people practice it, as long as its not yours.

No Jew/Christian/Muslim can look at anything in Hinduism as anything but a myth.

People calling bigots racists are idiots. And should be ignored.

Come on, we know better than that.

One need not be a bigot for disliking a religion. I dislike Islam more than other major religions, yet I have no problem dealing with Muslims as people. Using terms like bigot (or more often racist) are to shield the subject for critical discussion.

[Brain_in_a_vat]

Wasn't aware disliking anything determines you as a bigot, racist or intolerant.

Basing your 'argument' if that's what you want to call it, on naive generalisations is a recipe for fail.

[Hax]

Yet people are so frequently labeled "racist" when criticizing Islam or Judaism.

People calling bigots racists are idiots. And should be ignored.

Come on, we know better than that.

[PointOfViewGun]

How about it's not deemed "racist" if you dislike a religion but it's deemed "bigotry" if you dislike a religion for no real reason.

[Phier]

How about it's not deemed "racist" if you dislike a religion but it's deemed "bigotry" if you dislike a religion for no real reason.

Who gets to define what a 'real' reason is?