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[belBOSS]

Het niveau van de Belgische competitie is zó laag, vind er niks aan om er naar te zien.

Wie speelt hier welke TW game atm?

[Arto]

Rome: Total War Alexander expansion, het is pittig zeg maar ja, ik had nooit iets voor Phalanx gebaseerde facties.

[Adamat]

Wauw, dat dit thread nog in gebruik is joh

[lolIsuck]

Je moet "in gebruik" wel heel ver oprekken, wil je deze thread in aanmerking ervoor laten komen.

[Arto]

Wauw, dat dit thread nog in gebruik is joh

Eens in de zoveel tijd necro'en kan geen kwaad.

[Treize]

Taxandrius, waar zijt gij?!

[portvcale 1200]

Hello
you know wat battle is this ?

the vietnamese Nguyen lords defeated the dutch in a 1643 battle during the Trinh-Nguyen war

i think this is the same battle below :

In 1642 and 1643 the Trinh army attacked the Nguyen walls. With the aid of the
Dutch cannons, the Trinh army broke through the first wall but failed to break
through the second. at sea the Trinh with their Dutch ships : Kievit ,Nachtegaels
,Woekend Book were defeated by the Nguyễn fleet with their portuguese ships


thanks

[Jagdpanzer]

Hello
you know wat battle is this ?

the vietnamese Nguyen lords defeated the dutch in a 1643 battle during the Trinh-Nguyen war

i think this is the same battle below :

In 1642 and 1643 the Trinh army attacked the Nguyen walls. With the aid of the
Dutch cannons, the Trinh army broke through the first wall but failed to break
through the second. at sea the Trinh with their Dutch ships : Kievit ,Nachtegaels
,Woekend Book were defeated by the Nguyễn fleet with their portuguese ships


thanks

What is your source?

According to Wikipedia the Trinh only hired the Dutch to build ships and cannons for them so the Dutch Republic was not involved in this conflict.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tr%E1%...%E1%BB%85n_War

[portvcale 1200]

well i found the source :
Siam Total War [Lưu Trữ] - Diễn đàn Lịch sử Việt Nam



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After the first assault, the Nguyễn built two massive fortified lines which stretched a few miles from the sea to the hills. The walls were built north of Huế near the city of Đồng Hới. The Nguyễn defended these lines against numerous Trịnh offensives which lasted till 1672. The story from this time is that the great military engineer was a Vietnamese general who was hired away from the Trịnh court by the Nguyễn. This man is given the credit in Vietnam for the successful design of the Nguyễn walls.

Against the walls the Trịnh mustered an army of 100,000 men, 500 elephants, and 500 large ships (Dupuy "Encyclopedia of Military History" pg. 596). The initial attacks on the Nguyễn wall was unsuccessful. The attacks lasted for several years.
In 1633 the Trịnh tried an amphibious assault on the Nguyễn to get around the wall. The Trịnh fleet was defeated by the Nguyễn fleet at the battle of Nhat-Le.

Around 1635 the Trịnh copied the Nguyễn and sought military aid from the Europeans. Trịnh Trang hired the Dutch to make cannons and ships for the Royal army. In 1642 and 1643 the Trịnh army attacked the Nguyễn walls. With the aid of the Dutch cannons, the Trịnh army broke through the first wall but failed to break through the second. At sea, the Trịnh, with their Dutch ships: Kievit, Nachtegaels and Woekende Book were defeated by the Nguyễn fleet with their Portuguese ships.

Trịnh Trang staged yet another offensive in 1648 but at the battle of Truong Duc, the Royal army was badly beaten by the Nguyễn. The new Lê king died around this time, perhaps as a result of the defeat. This now left the door open for the Nguyễn to finally go on the offensive.
The Nguyễn launched their own invasion of Vietnam in 1653. The Nguyễn army attacked north and defeated the weakened Royal army. Quảng Bình province was captured. Then Hà Tĩnh province fell to the Nguyễn army. In the following year, Trịnh Trang died as Nguyễn forces made attacks into Nghệ An province. Under a new Trịnh Lord, the capable Trịnh Tạc, the Royal army attacked the Nguyễn army and defeated it. The Nguyễn were fatally weakened by a division between their two top generals who refused to cooperate with each other. In 1656 the Nguyễn army was driven back all the way to their original walls. Trịnh Tạc tried to break the walls of the Nguyễn in 1661 but this attack, like so many before it, failed to break through the walls.
Finally in 1672, the Trịnh army made a last effort to conquer the Nguyễn. The attacking army was under the command of Trịnh Tạc's son, Trịnh Căn, while the defending army was under the command of Nguyen Phuc Tan's son Prince Nguyễn Phúc Thuận. The attack, like all the previous attacks on the Nguyễn walls, failed. This time the two sides agreed to a peace. With mediation supplied by the government of the Kangxi Emperor, the Trịnh and the Nguyễn finally agreed to end the fighting by making the Linh River the border between their lands (1673). Although the Nguyễn nominally accepted the Lê King as the ruler of Vietnam, the reality was, the Nguyễn ruled the south, and the Trịnh ruled the north. This division continued for the next 100 years. The border between the Trịnh and the Nguyễn was strongly guarded but peaceful.
The long peace came to an end in 1774. At the time, the Nguyễn were under heavy assault from the Tây Sơn brothers and part of their army had been defeated in recent fighting in Cambodia. The result was, the army in the north defending Huế was weak. Trịnh Sam, one of the last Trịnh Lords and ruler of the north, launched his attack on the Nguyễn November 15, 1774. For the first time, the Nguyễn walls were broken and captured. In February 1775, the Nguyễn capital of Hue was captured by the Royal (Trịnh) army. After some fighting with the army of the Tây Sơn, a treaty was signed and the Trịnh army left the destruction of the Nguyễn to the southern rebels. 12 years later the Trịnh Lords would be thrown out of Vietnam by the youngest and most popular of the Tây Sơn brothers.

[General Brewster]

Leeft iedereen nog of ?

[lolIsuck]

Nou, nee.

[General Brewster]

Nou dat is dan mooi ...

[Muizer]

[Owlparrot3]

hallo allemaal vrienden

[Jagdpanzer]

hallo allemaal vrienden

Deze thread is behoorlijk dood.

[♔atthias♔]

Deze thread is behoorlijk dood.

dit thread niet deze ja
maar ik snap het al te dicht bij de belgen dat verklaart het

[Jagdpanzer]

dit thread niet deze ja
maar ik snap het al te dicht bij de belgen dat verklaart het

Thread is een de woord, dus moet het deze thread zijn. Waar heb jij nederlands geleerd?

[♔atthias♔]

Thread is een de woord, dus moet het deze thread zijn. Waar heb jij nederlands geleerd?

op school en van pa die een soort van neerlandicus is maar ik zelf hem ASAP vragen wat hij ervan denkt

hallo allemaal vrienden

hallo mad orc nooit geweten dat je nederlands sprak

[lolIsuck]

Je kunt thread als draad of draadje vertalen, draad is een "de" woord, verkleinwoorden zijn "het" dus je kunt voor beiden wel een argument geven. Deze thread klinkt wel veel beter dan dit thread.

[♔atthias♔]

Je kunt thread als draad of draadje vertalen, draad is een "de" woord, verkleinwoorden zijn "het" dus je kunt voor beiden wel een argument geven. Deze thread klinkt wel veel beter dan dit thread.

echt niet dit thread is beter BASTA