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    Icon13 What is with the Units? Battles Only

    So I see barbarian units in Macedon and a lot of foreign units in other nations? Why is this? Really doesn't make the factions distinct at all. Do these units come in the campaign game to?

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    Default Re: What is with the Units? Battles Only

    those are all the units a faction can raise on the campaign. if you notice there are a factions own units that no one else can recruit and then you'll notice there are units like (Celtic levy spearmen) for example that can be recruited by everyone. the units in battle mode are meant to represent a factions entire roster not just thier main factional units.

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    Default Re: What is with the Units? Battles Only

    There just isn't a way to please everyone. Some players prefer to have a mixture of units to use in a custom battle others don't. At leasr by haivng them there the players that don't like to use them don't have to and the ones that like using them can use them....

    You can always add the NO_CUSTOM attribute in the export_descr_unit.txt file.

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    Code:
    type             bruttian spearman
    dictionary       bruttian_spearman
    category         infantry
    class            spearmen
    voice_type       Medium_1
    soldier          roman_triarii, 50, 0, 1.256
    officer          greek_standard
    mount_effect     horse +2
    attributes       sea_faring,  hide_forest,  can_sap,  very_hardy,  no_custom
    formation        1, 1, 2, 2, 5,  square,  shield_wall
    stat_health      1, 5
    stat_pri         12, 13, no, 0, 0, melee, blade, piercing, spear, 25, 0.275
    stat_pri_attr    light_spear, spear_bonus_4
    stat_sec         14, 11, no, 0, 0, melee, blade, piercing, sword, 25, 0.292
    stat_sec_attr    no
    stat_pri_armour  7, 21, 6, metal
    stat_sec_armour  0, 1, flesh
    stat_heat        2
    stat_ground      0, 0, -2, -2
    stat_mental      22, disciplined, trained
    stat_charge_dist 33
    stat_fire_delay  5000
    stat_food        60, 300
    stat_cost        0, 1815, 559, 274, 366, 227
    ownership        barbarian, nomad, carthaginian, eastern, parthia, egyptian, greek, slave

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    Default Re: What is with the Units? Battles Only

    You can please some of the people all of the time, all the people some of the time,But you cant please all of the people all of the time.
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    Default Re: What is with the Units? Battles Only

    At least you guy can separate the core troops from the mercenary ones in the customize army window, can't you?
    When playing custom battle I often (accidentally, mostly because of the auto button) have Greek phalanx in Celtic armies or celtic warriors in Parthian armies. A very unhistorical feeling.
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    Default Re: What is with the Units? Battles Only

    iirc, the factional troops are "first" in the list. The mercenaries/aor units after them.
    Buildup of that screen is like this
    factional infantry, from weakest to strongest > factional cavalry, from weakest to strongest > siege equipment > other units.

    Just select your own armies

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    Default Re: What is with the Units? Battles Only

    Quote Originally Posted by Bellus88 View Post
    So I see barbarian units in Macedon and a lot of foreign units in other nations? Why is this? Really doesn't make the factions distinct at all. Do these units come in the campaign game to?
    It's actually historically correct. Kinda like the current US Army, who is able to recruit local policemen in area's they conquered or hire mercenary armies from Europe and beyond

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    Default Re: What is with the Units? Battles Only

    That's so wrong

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    Guys, we all know the best kind of Imperialism happens when it's done by guys in red:

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    and on that note, thread locked and returned to the grave.

    Edited (Brusilov): All off-topic posts have been deleted for good measure.....
    Last edited by Brusilov; April 04, 2011 at 02:03 AM.
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