Should the United Nations Command (Korea) be reformed to prevent further violence in Korea

[Farnan]

The United Nations Command is the organization that fought in Korea during the Korean War. Contrary to popular belief it still exists, though in name only (US and ROK forces now fall under Combined Forces Command - Korea, though the general in command CFC-K is also the commander of the UNC).

Should this force be reformed to provide a deterrent effect to North Korea? Reform it of as many countries as possible and have it patrol alongside ROK troops. This way North Korea won't launch attacks as they would not want to provoke the anger of other nations.

[ash874]

n.korea is a chinese ally
china wont allow anything of the sort
and besides who would send troops?

[RO Citizen]

n.korea is a chinese ally
china wont allow anything of the sort
and besides who would send troops?

Lol. China would help NK immediately if attacked...with a nuke in their head, maybe

The UN is, as it's name says, UNable to do anything. They can't handle Rwanda or Liberia, so how would anyone base on it to modernize North Korea? And I'd rather prefer to cut the hypocricy and not call a possible anti-NK coalition an UN-force.

[Jingles]

I think they'd launch attacks anyway - the leadership can't afford not to. But it sounds like an interesting idea though. Basically you'd like to see troops from most UN member states on the ground patrolling the DMZ as well?

and besides who would send troops?

The UK, France, Germany, Italy, to name a few. Probably a number of East Asian states would too.

[Farnan]

China doesn't have a call. The UN mandate that created the United Nations Command is still in effect. Finally, China is getting more and more annoyed at North Korea.

Also, the whole purpose is to put token forces there to increase the opportunity cost of launching attacks across the border and prevent violence. Further to avoid pissing off China they can cap the force at around 10,000

Nations that we could ask to participate include Japan, the Philippines, Australia, New Zealand, and India along with other US and South Korean allies.

Jingle: I don't think they would. China would push them heavily not to too in order to avoid damaging relations with these countries. It will also increase the opportunity cost and maybe force North Korea to use non-lethal actions.

[ash874]

china will not allow period
china has veto right in security council
and even if it didnt no one will do anything in china's backyard without its consent
moreover russia wont allow it too
naming all the countries you did just shows one thing
you expect the US to send all the troops while the rest of the countries will send 14 troops each
some poor officer will have to learn 27 languages to coordinate these guys

but as i said it will not happen. not even on the level of phantasy or daydreaming

[Darkhorse]

you expect the US to send all the troops while the rest of the countries will send 14 troops each

Don't know about the rest of you but I think this one stands out as rather wrong.

[Jingles]

Jingle: I don't think they would. China would push them heavily not to too in order to avoid damaging relations with these countries. It will also increase the opportunity cost and maybe force North Korea to use non-lethal actions.

Be that as it may, I think North Korea would likely ignore China up to the point of Beijing threatening a wholesale trade embargo. The DPRK's sporadic military incursions are one of the very few things keeping popular support for the regime going at home. In fact it might even be dangerous to put North Korea into a dilemma like that - because they might decide to do something incredibly rash.

[Farnan]

Umm...

There will be no vote in the security council. There doesn't need to be one...

http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/docid/3b00f1e85c.html

Authorizes the force, and the force already exists with 0 troops (though there is a United Nations Security Battalion that is separate).

[Farnan]

http://www.usfk.mil/usfk/press-relea...rejoin.unc.689

[Mr. Scott]

The only reason China doesn't join the US and korean jingle is because they are they're only buffer against the US alliance system. However, even China is finding it increasingly annoying to side with North Korea. Who knows, maybe in a few years China will abandon their alliance and the Koreas will be one.

[Snoopy]

The United Nations Command is the organization that fought in Korea during the Korean War. Contrary to popular belief it still exists, though in name only (US and ROK forces now fall under Combined Forces Command - Korea, though the general in command CFC-K is also the commander of the UNC).

Should this force be reformed to provide a deterrent effect to North Korea? Reform it of as many countries as possible and have it patrol alongside ROK troops. This way North Korea won't launch attacks as they would not want to provoke the anger of other nations.

(A) I wouldn't trust the UN to butter my toast (by the time they voted on the "Toast Buttering" procedure, avoided the US veto if China supports it or Chinese veto if the US supported it, wrote up several preliminary copies of the "Toast Buttering" in legalese with about 10k pages, and then organized a task force for the job, it would be very cold, and they would probably accidentally butter it with cement or a similar substance instead). Why should they be trusted with a job of any importance?

(B) Why is this needed? North Korea is utterly inferior to South Korea. Even the US is unneeded, as the South Koreans could probably win on their own. The only thing bringing the UN (or even the US) into it does is piss off China and/or Russia.

(C) China or Russia would probably veto it, and if they didn't veto it North Korea would be doomed anyway.

[Farnan]

A) It is led by General Walter "Skip" Sharp who is given full authority to command the force.

B) For deterrence.

C) There won't be a vote for it as UNC (K) already exists.

[Snoopy]

Deterring North Korea is pointless. They are already totally okay with a war against South Korea, Japan, and the USA, I don't think they are going to be scared by the "Australian Expeditionary Force". South Korea could win on its own, and North Korea is going to do whatever it is going to do regardless of what the UN is doing.

[Viking Prince]

How will such a reform have prevented the incidents of the past few months? If it would not have prevented the blasting of a ship and the poorly aimed bombardment of a military post, I cannot see what good comes from the reform. There is already USA troops as a tripwire. More troops from more nations would not matter unless you had enough to post on every ship, aircraft, and military target in all of the south.

[Inhuman One]

Let them fight their own war is what I say. It is a civil war after all.

[ash874]

Let them fight their own war is what I say. It is a civil war after all.

well you are from the netherlands
so some 70 years ago someone else could say
hey they are all dutch so its a civil war let them sort it out

[Inhuman One]

Germans are not Dutch.

And there actually was a civil war here about a hundred years before that if not a bit longer. Belgium was part of the Netherlands after all, and fought for their independence. Aside from likely mercenary companies, other countries where not involved.

[♔Goodguy1066♔]

Germans are not Dutch.

And there actually was a civil war here about a hundred years before that if not a bit longer. Belgium was part of the Netherlands after all, and fought for their independence. Aside from likely mercenary companies, other countries where not involved.

This isn't a century ago. If the Southern part of your country were to suddenly declare themselves the rightful owners of the Netherlands, and built nukes and missiles and shelled your country with the diplomatic backing of a reigonal superpower; would you not want help from the reso of the world? Would you be all "we're alright, let us sort 'em our it's just a civil war!"?

[Manuel I Komnenos]

So, should countries many times weaker than South Korea in terms of military and economy send additional troops there? Don't think so..
Today, countries are unwilling even to send troops in a country that actually has problems (Afghanistan) let alone send troops to South Korea..
Though, if South Korea, payed money I wouldn't have a problem for Greece to send troops there..