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    Yes, rejoice! Revan has started up campaign stories again after downloading SPQR 5.0!
    I ended up restarting my Julli campaign, just to see changes etc. Heres how it went:

    Julli Campaign: Boy I was surprised to see full stacks all around . I moved my full forces, Garrisons and all, to Segesta in order to besiege, and starve them out (Hell no, I aint storming that thing, I HATE storming cities anyway). Luckily for me, A relief army of around 1,000 came from Genua to relieve the besieged, thus I fought a defensive battle in the field. I essentially handled the relief army, then the besieged army one at a time and killed just under 3,000 Samnites/Barbarians for 200 Romans. This was mainly due to a mistake in which Skirmish mode got turned off and 100 archers were killed by naked fanatics. My "Auxilla Cavalry" (i.e. Barbarian Mercs.) also took some hits due to suicidal (but effective) cavalry charges. Another problem was their archers outnumbered me at least 2:1, so it required said suicidal cavalry charges. All my infantry took 5-10 casulties each, so the battle was far from crippling.

    Next, I moved to Bononia which was left lightly defended with 3 units. I attacked and got in because of open gates, courtesy of my Spy. I took 200ish casulties of all Hastati because all the Barbarians were Swordsmen. All the same, I am way too sloppy and out of practice :laughing: .

    Outcome: Segesta and Bononia captured, 3,000 Rebels and 600 Gauls dead for 400-500 Romans almost all due to sloppyness

    -Revan

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    Update: Mendiolanium and Patavium captured, the Gauls really dropped the ball and left them near undefended. I did fight one big battle with 3,600 Gauls vs 2,600 Romans. I won quite nicely but the Gallic General "Pulled an Alexander" (For anyone who has seen the movie "Alexander" or at least the Director's cut, you'll laugh your ass off). In which the Gallic general goes through 1 Hastati, 1 Triarii, and 1 Shieldwalled Hastati to chase my general, all the while getting their asses shot off by fire arrows. Unfortunatly the hated-Gallic General did finally catch my general. I massacred the nearby city out of spite.

    In other News, Amulius, Manius, and Decius Julius (all sons of the forefathers), are all complete Goobers with crazy traits such as "Unusual", along with "Rather Lazy", or "Incompetant Defender". In short, our future has gone to hell just like America's

    -Revan

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    Revan,

    good to see you doing this again, I was going to start a Mighty Julii again but now you have I'll do a Brutii, starting in the new year....

    the tendancy to get useless children seems to be a recurrant SPQR thing, has LT fiddled this?
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    Raven, what would you recommend I do for a new campaign? I've only done Juli for Romans ever since I got the game. I'm thinking I either play as Germania, Bruti, or greeks.

    That's funny about the general charge. Once I had that happen to me and I wasn't paying attention. I lost my 9 star general as a result (still won the battle though)

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    NH, Try Scippi. They are immensley fun and far more versatile then the other Romans. They also contain more variety then Brutti who face Phalanx after Phalanx. For Campaign options, you can send expeditionary forces to Greece or Northern Italy/Southern Gaul, N. Africa, or (and I got my ass kicked due to mass autocalc) Spain.

    Tactical-Yeah a "Mighty Brutti" campaign would be cool. I really need a good general, I don't want to pull the 30-50 year old founders out of the cities due to management. I'm not sure if Lt. fiddled with this, but I notice probably 90% of the Roman Family members..are bald

    -Revan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revan The Great
    NH, Try Scippi. They are immensley fun and far more versatile then the other Romans. They also contain more variety then Brutti who face Phalanx after Phalanx. For Campaign options, you can send expeditionary forces to Greece or Northern Italy/Southern Gaul, N. Africa, or (and I got my ass kicked due to mass autocalc) Spain.

    Tactical-Yeah a "Mighty Brutti" campaign would be cool. I really need a good general, I don't want to pull the 30-50 year old founders out of the cities due to management. I'm not sure if Lt. fiddled with this, but I notice probably 90% of the Roman Family members..are bald

    -Revan
    I do remember that helping my Scippi ally in sicily was very difficult to kick carthage out. Can you explain how they are more versatile? Or do you mean that they face a variety of different enemies?

    If I do play as Scippi, who should I go and attack besides carthage?

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    NorthHammer - don't play greeks, it is very boring. Even if you don't blitz you very quickly end up with 30k income a turn and the ability to churn out at least single gold chevron units. I would imagine Germania would be much the same once you get going. I'd agree with Revan, go for Scipii.

    Rvan - I'm sure he's frigged it somehow, either that or I'm just very unlucky. Ach well, at least they make decent cavalry...
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    Amazingly I almost never lose family members in the field , Once I had like 5 generals, all lost their bodyguards (around 100-200 men total) except for themselves and 1-2. I then made a big charge with 15 cavalry: 5 family members and minimal members of bodyguards each into my enemies' flank, I won the battle because all the enemies routed . But yeah, I think Lt. messed with family members somehow, how else is just about everyone bald?

    Campaign Update: Something amazing happened. The Greeks attacked in conjunction with the evil Gauls ! I have a 2nd legion forming, and my 1st Legion (Semi-veteran) went to deal with the Greeks. The Greeks had besieged Patavium containing Amulius Julius (My only semi-competant young general...who is also a madman ), 2 Hastati, and 1 Velite, that don't come into play in the battle.

    Battle Deployments: Greeks deployed 6-7 phalanx units in a ...crescent...shape. with Cretan Archers on their left, peltasts on their right, 2 Sword hoplites and 1 Spartan on their "center", behind the phalanxes. I deployed in standard formation, Hastati, Principe, Triarri (4 each), 1 Velite in front as a screening force. My right flank (thus opposite the Cretan's) was 1 family member and a unit of Equite. My left flank was 2 Samnite and a 1 silver chev Velite. Commanding general was at center, behind Triarii with Archers to his right.

    Battle: It opens up both me and the Greeks advancing towards each other, I stop and their Cretans come forward to attack me. I was ready to smash into Greek left (Cretans), with my Right (Equites+General) which I dead, killed 60-80 cretans, then withdrew. This somehow broke the enemies' will and they started to retreat. I was only able to catch a Militia Hoplite and route it before the Greeks fully retreated.

    Results: Greek army beaten back, 200-300 Greeks lay dead for 35 Cavalrymen and 1 Velite (Velite died in the Cretan Archer's barrage which was strangely ineffective.)

    -Revan

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    I thought I explained that Scippi are more versatile in the routes they can take. After Sicily, you fight an Oversea battle. This doesn't need to be conducted in N. Africa, it can go to Spain, Turkey, Greece, Southern Gaul, even Egypt/Syria if you want a challenge. You're also able to have more fronts then Roman counterparts, Since you possess (counting Sicily) 8 places to build Legions. Add Sardinia and Corsica that jumps to 11. Aside from that, Scippi has my favorite family members. Gaius Scipio is so nice as a starting General, and then Aulus Scipio usually also develops well, since his father (starting faction leader), hasn't had anything screw up his traits. So Aulus doesn't inherit bad traits. Aulus is like 10-12 at start of game, thus yet to come of age.

    -Revan

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    Revan, how long should I wait before I conquer sicily? I don't want to rush sicily like I did the Gauls with Juli.

    I'm tentaviely thinking of trying to overtake sicily right from the get-go as quickly as I can, then maybe a couple of of those islands to the west, then waiting still until MR. While I'm waiting I can build up cities and help my roman counterparts? That's not too much or too little of a blitz is it?

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    Well, I don't want to tell you how to play your game, but i'd say wait until 250 B.C. to take over Sicily? Taking Syracuse and Agrigentum before that is probably ok, along with Sardinia, Corsica, and expeditionary forces elsewhere. It all really depends on your limits. I can fight through amazing odds to victory, but if you can barely hold together a line from a charge of noob Warband, you might want to Blitz a little :laughing:

    -Revan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revan The Great
    but if you can barely hold together a line from a charge of noob Warband, you might want to Blitz a little :laughing:
    -Revan
    Noob warbands do not frighten me. Did you forget?


    I just have a tendency to attack at all times. I like to push my empire forward constantly like a freight train, by never letting up. Restraint is not a virtue of mine (in my personal life too! LOL)

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthHammer
    Noob warbands do not frighten me. Did you forget?


    I just have a tendency to attack at all times. I like to push my empire forward constantly like a freight train, by never letting up. Restraint is not a virtue of mine (in my personal life too! LOL)
    Hah in my julii campaign im at 240BC and im currently pinned down at the bridge at massilia with very limited possibilities for a major breakthrough against the gauls. This is in 4.6. I havent got any chance to download and play 5.0 because my RTW cd is busted so i have to buy a new copy of rome TW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savage_Swede
    Hah in my julii campaign im at 240BC and im currently pinned down at the bridge at massilia with very limited possibilities for a major breakthrough against the gauls. This is in 4.6. I havent got any chance to download and play 5.0 because my RTW cd is busted so i have to buy a new copy of rome TW

    Sorry to hear about that! Immediatly after i took that screen shot, I pulled out of Gaul and let Germany take the whole country over (for a challange). Now I'm reclaiming the land (but the germans have stone walls now because of me! LOL

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    Wow, Brutti and Scippi aren't doing just great are they...

    I never waste money on walls, unless its a capital (for fun) or something.

    Also, you do blitz way too early IMO, but then again if you wait too late, the MR come and it gets alot easy .

    -Revan

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    Well I am in a interesting predictament. Flavius Julius' army of 3,054 was relieving besieged Genua (Besieged by 3,898 I believe), I stopped right before their army because I wanted to fight a defensive battle. However, a 2nd Gaul army comes up, 3,000 strong. They are on opposite sides of my army (3,898 on South West, 3,000 on North East), and they have me somewhat boxed in. It is essentially 3,000 Romans vs 7,000 Gauls, so I open it up to my loyal..thread...uh..posters.

    Our Options, You decide:
    1. My legion is 2 Bronze-1 silver Chevron, 3,000 Strong. I could stand and fight and hopefully win against more then 2:1 odds, they outnumber me by 4,000
    2. I could Withdraw which would move my army towards the bridge to enter Transalpine Gaul, likely only one army would follow me, thus chances of success are greatly increased.

    I decided to make this part a "Interactive Campaign" at least for this battle, I'm going to wait an hour or two then come back here and see if anyone posted. Cheers

    -Revan

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    I'm more of a "defeat-in-detail" approach. Fall back and bring your full weight to bear on a small part of their forces, thus crushing them while getting no casualties (at least, not much).

    Then again, an epic battle also attracts my attention.

    So, to conclude : stand and fight! I love big battles, especially if I can crush an entire force in the region with just one battle.
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    Problem with the Gauls is no matter how many of them you kill, double that number is invading you next year .

    -Revan

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    Well not many people wish to give their input I am going out to lunch, then I will return and hopefully some more people will have posted!

    -Revan

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    7,200 Gauls lay dead for 700 Romans. Genua has been relieved, and Flavius wishes his newest Grandson-General (Marcus) wasn't crazy like the other 3 (I am about to cry! I swear )

    Battle: Reinforcements were delayed so I essentially fought the armies one at a time, I deployed with one flank to some rocks, and the other flank to the "Line" that marks the end of the battlefield, that way I couldn't get outflanked in the least. I did however hide some Barb Cav Mercs. along with one of the crazy grandchildren in the woods to ambush which worked quite nicely. On the 2nd army, my flanking Cavalry killed Gaul's general right as they crashed into the Gallic rear. The effect was their whole line instantly routed, and my whole line followed them as one.

    It was quite spectacular.

    -Revan

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