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    Default Re: [RS 2.1] Shieldwall for roman hamata and segmentata legions rome 0-turn and 1-turn Updated

    Quote Originally Posted by Julianus Flavius View Post
    Incidentally, does anyone know why Spartan hoplites can do a shieldwall but all the other 'city' hoplites can't? like I know it's possible to give them shieldwall but I'm wondering why the team chose not to. And Triarii using both shieldwalls at once = winnage

    I think there are 2 ??? hoplites making shieldwall,right?...Maybe this was to meant to simulate that they are ellite units.
    Triarii can make Shieldwall only in BI.exe....so it was sort of obvious that I inlcuded it for them,too.
    That Triarii got now a doubled function when playing with BI.exe...well...it could not be avoided as they all use the same EDU.

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    Default Re: [RS 2.1] Shieldwall for roman hamata and segmentata legions rome 0-turn and 1-turn Updated

    Hi chris,

    regarding my file install
    here u are

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    Default Re: [RS 2.1] Shieldwall for roman hamata and segmentata legions rome 0-turn and 1-turn Updated

    Quote Originally Posted by Protector View Post
    Hi chris,

    regarding my file install
    here u are

    looks good and must work in the campaign...not sure about custom battles because it is possible that the game uses the export_descr_units.txt file from the main data file and not the one from Rome_Play_1_Turn...so dont bother checking for shieldwall in customs battles

    Next battle in your campaign you should select a Triarii unit and press the button with the 3 shields and get a close look on them...they will come very tight together...

    when starting a new campaign of course Triarii will be the only unit where you notice the change...only after the Marian Reforms and when you will get the numbered Legions you can make use of this on a wider scale.

    EDIT: solved
    Last edited by chris10; November 29, 2010 at 06:45 PM.

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    Default Re: [RS 2.1] Shieldwall for roman hamata and segmentata legions rome 0-turn and 1-turn Updated

    I have had a look at your work and this is a fantastic idea for those who prefer to use ALX as obviously it does not have shield wall could you expand it however and give all the units that have shield wall in BI to have this formation spacing for use with ALX
    example: Kentronakan spear men, Celtic heavy spear men etc etc
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    Default Re: [RS 2.1] Shieldwall for roman hamata and segmentata legions rome 0-turn and 1-turn Updated

    Quote Originally Posted by DedlySerious View Post
    1. I have had a look at your work and this is a fantastic idea for those who prefer to use ALX as obviously it does not have shield wall
    2. could you expand it however and give all the units that have shield wall in BI to have this formation spacing for use with ALX
    example: Kentronakan spear men, Celtic heavy spear men etc etc

    1. Many thanks..very kind of you .
    2. uuuuhhh...lot of work as this has to be done individually for every modfolderd faction and campaign and on the other hand I think this would cheapen seriously the feature...so...sorry...

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    Default Re: [RS 2.1] Shieldwall for roman hamata and segmentata legions rome 0-turn and 1-turn Updated

    ok np thanks for the quick reply
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    Default Re: [RS 2.1] Shieldwall for roman hamata and segmentata legions rome 0-turn and 1-turn Updated

    will the ai(roman rebels) be able to use this after the rebelion is trigered

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    Default Re: [RS 2.1] Shieldwall for roman hamata and segmentata legions rome 0-turn and 1-turn Updated

    Quote Originally Posted by apulum View Post
    will the ai(roman rebels) be able to use this after the rebelion is trigered

    good question ...go figure it out ...

    but seriously...I doubt that the AI would be "aware" of this as this is tied to the loose button and the AI would never use loose for Legionaries

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    Default Re: [RS 2.1] Shieldwall for roman hamata and segmentata legions rome 0-turn and 1-turn Updated

    Cracks me up that they shout: "Units Loose Formation!" Just before locking their shields into a shield wall.

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    Default Re: [RS 2.1] Shieldwall for roman hamata and segmentata legions rome 0-turn and 1-turn Updated

    Quote Originally Posted by Kallides View Post
    Cracks me up that they shout: "Units Loose Formation!" Just before locking their shields into a shield wall.

    yeah...but there is no way to change that unless ALL roman units would respond "shieldwall" when using the "loose button"...
    there is no way to tie a specific response to a specific unit
    its just working for an entire "culture"..

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    Default Re: [RS 2.1] Shieldwall for roman hamata and segmentata legions rome 0-turn and 1-turn Updated

    lol. Don't worry mate I am not complaining I just found it amusing. Well done on the mod.

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    Default Re: [RS 2.1] Shieldwall for roman hamata and segmentata legions rome 0-turn and 1-turn Updated

    Hey Chris nice mod is it compatible with

    -2.1a
    -SPQR symbol mod
    -the Legion ancilliaries sub mod.

    ?????

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    Default Re: [RS 2.1] Shieldwall for roman hamata and segmentata legions rome 0-turn and 1-turn Updated

    Quote Originally Posted by Pro Gloria et Patria View Post
    Hey Chris nice mod is it compatible with

    -2.1a
    -SPQR symbol mod
    -the Legion ancilliaries sub mod.

    ?????
    thanks a lot...
    of course its compatible....but I have something a lot bigger in the making...look here...

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=410495

    Quote Originally Posted by Kallides View Post
    lol. Don't worry mate I am not complaining I just found it amusing. Well done on the mod.
    thanks mate..have a look here..a real challenge is coming around the corner...

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=410495
    Last edited by chris10; December 19, 2010 at 09:27 AM.

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    Default Re: [RS 2.1] Shieldwall for roman hamata and segmentata legions rome 0-turn and 1-turn Updated

    No I mean I use RTW as the platform for RS II Roman Campaign

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    Default Re: [RS 2.1] Shieldwall for roman hamata and segmentata legions rome 0-turn and 1-turn Updated

    Quote Originally Posted by Ayanami030 View Post
    No I mean I use RTW as the platform for RS II Roman Campaign
    ah...ok....thats another story...of course...I mean...I made this for the RSII Roman Campaign...go to first post to download from there...pay attention though ..there are 2 versions
    one is for 0Turn Roman Campaign...the other for 1Turn Roman Campaign

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    Default Re: [RS 2.1] Shieldwall for roman hamata and segmentata legions rome 0-turn and 1-turn Updated

    Nice; plus rep.
    "With a population of around a million, Rome (in Claudius' time) was a vast city even by modern standards. It is worth pointing out that during the early Renaissance the population of Rome was no more than fifteen thousand-- living amid the ruins of a civilization that dwarfed their own. It was not until the nineteenth century that the population of Rome returned to the levels it had enjoyed under the Caesars. That is eloquent proof of the fact that human history is not a tale of steady progress towards greater knowledge and achievement." Simon Scarrow

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    Default Re: [RS 2.1] Shieldwall for roman hamata and segmentata legions rome 0-turn and 1-turn Updated

    can you make it for custom battles please

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    Default Re: [RS 2.1] Shieldwall for roman hamata and segmentata legions rome 0-turn and 1-turn Updated

    Doesnt work...I have the new button,but thats all....they simply spread out like vanilla.

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    Default Re: [RS 2.1] Shieldwall for roman hamata and segmentata legions rome 0-turn and 1-turn Updated

    Quote Originally Posted by Jezza93 View Post
    Doesnt work...I have the new button,but thats all....they simply spread out like vanilla.
    Over 1000 downloads and it worked for all ...you must have missed something somewhere...
    btw..its ONLY working for Numbered Legions, Triarii and Praetorians

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    Default Re: [RS 2.1] Shieldwall for roman hamata and segmentata legions rome 0-turn and 1-turn Updated

    :/ I put everything where it says,0 turn...but it just doesnt work... :/

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