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    Default Are we living in the end times?

    lavoj Zizek, the philosopher and cultural critic, on the collapse of society and the failure of capitalism.


    http://english.aljazeera.net/program...191189923.html
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    This guy looks legit and not at all crazy and/or homeless.
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    yes

    but life goes on, same as the world didn't fall into a black hole just cuz Rome was no longer a hegemon in its own right

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    End of times?

    Humanity is prospering. Our technology is flourishing. Or achievements continue to push the limits of belief everyday.

    In this kind of age, there's hardly anywhere to look but forward.

    Maybe we will bleed, but we'll grow, stronger and more prestigious than ever.


    (Though I can agree, Society isn't following technology's progress. It's degrading.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by CamilleBonparte View Post
    This guy looks legit and not at all crazy and/or homeless.
    He's brilliant though. I'm a libertarian capitalist big business lover type and I find him insightful. Though admittedly I prefer his film commentary to his politics.
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    He does seem crazy, but at least he has come up with a semi-rational reason for an apocalypse rather than simply saying "The Bible says So!"


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    " He does seem crazy, but at least he has come up with a semi-rational reason for an apocalypse rather than simply saying "The Bible says So!" "

    Bandiera Rossa,

    Yet when you convert what is written in the Bible as coming via the Holy Ghost then it registers as coming from God, no? So where then does that leave this mere man?

    Concerning whether we are in the end times or last days there is no doubt that we are in the times of the Gentiles, the 1,000 year time that shortly before it is finished a false prophet will make his appearance to set aside all them who think that he is Jesus or Messias for the Jews.

    We are told that weather patterns will noticably change, that there will be an increase in earthquakes, volcanic activity and floods that are built around these things. We are also told of a great financial crash so it should come as no surprise that the emblems or mascots of the City of London's financial district are Gog and Magog.

    Of that lot only the first is a certainty. The thousand year reign being figurative certainly started the day the Lord Jesus Christ reclaimed the keys to life and death from Satan and took His place at the right hand of the Father. Notice His position here, the right hand of the Father, proclaiming the power that is God being in Him.

    How often have we heard the expression, he or she is my right-hand man, the man or woman I trust to do all that I require, my sword arm, well that is the Lord Jesus Christ in relation to the Father and the Holy Ghost. When He took up that place then began His reign as a united Godhead in Father, Son and Holy Spirit seen by the numbers 10x10x10=1,000. As 10 is the number of completeness what could be more complete.

    But as to its time in reality only the Father knows but we are given hints that it will come because the false prophet will have gathered all peoples into one great entity, persecuting them who refuse and because they are in great difficulties then is when Jesus Christ our Lord will return. So that is what we look for. An organisation that is worldwide and acceptable to both Jew and Gentile.

    Already many things are at a beginning. We have the United Nations. We have laws that condemn all who speak out against the Jew, homosexuals and other faiths, the exception perhaps being Christianity where it seems that all are allowed to have a go at it so in that respect alone there is a great coming together. For sure things are moving but as to when it will culminate only the daring would venture to answer that.

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    at every point in history there are hard turns we have to make. It doesn't mean it's the end of the world. Everything can't be good goody and prosperous always, there are going to be bad times, it's natural.
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    I really like this guy - We need more free thinking Marxists like Slavoj Zizek

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    I see your homeless crazy guy and I raise you a fictional magician:

    "Look, everybody always figures the time they live in is the most epic, most important age to end all ages. But tyrants and heroes rise and fall, and historians sort out the pieces."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Platon View Post
    Slavoj Zizek
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    Both male and female walruses have tusks and have been observed using these overgrown teeth to help pull themselves out of the water.

    The mustached and long-tusked walrus is most often found near the Arctic Circle, lying on the ice with hundreds of companions. These marine mammals are extremely sociable, prone to loudly bellowing and snorting at one another, but are aggressive during mating season. With wrinkled brown and pink hides, walruses are distinguished by their long white tusks, grizzly whiskers, flat flipper, and bodies full of blubber.
    Walruses use their iconic long tusks for a variety of reasons, each of which makes their lives in the Arctic a bit easier. They use them to haul their enormous bodies out of frigid waters, thus their "tooth-walking" label, and to break breathing holes into ice from below. Their tusks, which are found on both males and females, can extend to about three feet (one meter), and are, in fact, large canine teeth, which grow throughout their lives. Male walruses, or bulls, also employ their tusks aggressively to maintain territory and, during mating season, to protect their harems of females, or cows.
    The walrus' other characteristic features are equally useful. As their favorite meals, particularly shellfish, are found near the dark ocean floor, walruses use their extremely sensitive whiskers, called mustacial vibrissae, as detection devices. Their blubbery bodies allow them to live comfortably in the Arctic region—walruses are capable of slowing their heartbeats in order to withstand the polar temperatures of the surrounding waters.
    The two subspecies of walrus are divided geographically. Atlantic walruses inhabit coastal areas from northeastern Canada to Greenland, while Pacific walruses inhabit the northern seas off Russia and Alaska, migrating seasonally from their southern range in the Bering Sea—where they are found on the pack ice in winter—to the Chukchi Sea. Female Pacific walruses give birth to calves during the spring migration north.
    Only Native Americans are currently allowed to hunt walruses, as the species' survival was threatened by past overhunting. Their tusks, oil, skin, and meat were so sought after in the 18th and 19th centuries that the walrus was hunted to extinction in the Gulf of St. Lawrence and around Sable Island, off the coast of Nova Scotia.

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    I love Jolee.

    Also, relevant:

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    al jazeera has now joined the ranks of CNN, fox news and MSNBC

    seriously???, end times??
    what next? a piece on if ragnarok is around the corner?
    or how about whether or not santa claus likes cocoa or scotch?

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    No.

    It seems to be the eternal constant that society is always convinced that it's witnessing the end times. It seems to be a sort of defence mechanism against the idea that the present world is a fleeting transitory moment. Saying that the end times is nigh implies that this present society is unique in the larger scheme of things and that we've reached the height of human social development. I mean look at Christianity, a 2000 year old doomsday cult that relies on the concept that there will be an end times.
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    " I mean look at Christianity, a 2000 year old doomsday cult that relies on the concept that there will be an end times. "

    Their Law,

    I have to tell you that Christianity goes all the way back to righteous Abel, perhaps even before, thus making it at least some six thousand years old. This doomsday cult as you call it has been waiting and watching for the return of Jesus Christ since His elevation to the glory because that is where we all who are born again want to be. The finishing part of this hope is that according to what has been promised will be accomplished by there being an end of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basics View Post
    " I mean look at Christianity, a 2000 year old doomsday cult that relies on the concept that there will be an end times. "

    Their Law,

    I have to tell you that Christianity goes all the way back to righteous Abel, perhaps even before, thus making it at least some six thousand years old. This doomsday cult as you call it has been waiting and watching for the return of Jesus Christ since His elevation to the glory because that is where we all who are born again want to be. The finishing part of this hope is that according to what has been promised will be accomplished by there being an end of time.
    How does Christianity go back to 4000 years before Christ was born?
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    Both male and female walruses have tusks and have been observed using these overgrown teeth to help pull themselves out of the water.

    The mustached and long-tusked walrus is most often found near the Arctic Circle, lying on the ice with hundreds of companions. These marine mammals are extremely sociable, prone to loudly bellowing and snorting at one another, but are aggressive during mating season. With wrinkled brown and pink hides, walruses are distinguished by their long white tusks, grizzly whiskers, flat flipper, and bodies full of blubber.
    Walruses use their iconic long tusks for a variety of reasons, each of which makes their lives in the Arctic a bit easier. They use them to haul their enormous bodies out of frigid waters, thus their "tooth-walking" label, and to break breathing holes into ice from below. Their tusks, which are found on both males and females, can extend to about three feet (one meter), and are, in fact, large canine teeth, which grow throughout their lives. Male walruses, or bulls, also employ their tusks aggressively to maintain territory and, during mating season, to protect their harems of females, or cows.
    The walrus' other characteristic features are equally useful. As their favorite meals, particularly shellfish, are found near the dark ocean floor, walruses use their extremely sensitive whiskers, called mustacial vibrissae, as detection devices. Their blubbery bodies allow them to live comfortably in the Arctic region—walruses are capable of slowing their heartbeats in order to withstand the polar temperatures of the surrounding waters.
    The two subspecies of walrus are divided geographically. Atlantic walruses inhabit coastal areas from northeastern Canada to Greenland, while Pacific walruses inhabit the northern seas off Russia and Alaska, migrating seasonally from their southern range in the Bering Sea—where they are found on the pack ice in winter—to the Chukchi Sea. Female Pacific walruses give birth to calves during the spring migration north.
    Only Native Americans are currently allowed to hunt walruses, as the species' survival was threatened by past overhunting. Their tusks, oil, skin, and meat were so sought after in the 18th and 19th centuries that the walrus was hunted to extinction in the Gulf of St. Lawrence and around Sable Island, off the coast of Nova Scotia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basics View Post
    " I mean look at Christianity, a 2000 year old doomsday cult that relies on the concept that there will be an end times. "

    Their Law,

    I have to tell you that Christianity goes all the way back to righteous Abel, perhaps even before, thus making it at least some six thousand years old. This doomsday cult as you call it has been waiting and watching for the return of Jesus Christ since His elevation to the glory because that is where we all who are born again want to be. The finishing part of this hope is that according to what has been promised will be accomplished by there being an end of time.

    theres the problem that jesus stated some of his disciples, the ones at his feet, would be alive in the end times...

    "Immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming upon the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he will send out his angels with a trumpet blast, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. "Learn a lesson from the fig tree. When its branch becomes tender and sprouts leaves, you know that summer is near. In the same way, when you see all these things, know that he is near, at the gates. Amen, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have taken place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away. (Matthew 24:29-35 NAB)
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    Quote Originally Posted by justicar5 View Post
    theres the problem that jesus stated some of his disciples, the ones at his feet, would be alive in the end times...
    Uhh..did you not read the example of the fig tree? Once you notice the branches become tender and sprout leaves summer is about to start? Its saying once you start to see the signs of the return of the Lord, that generation will live to see the end. I.e the process will take about a life time, 40 ish years from start to finish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by basics View Post
    " I mean look at Christianity, a 2000 year old doomsday cult that relies on the concept that there will be an end times. "

    Their Law,

    I have to tell you that Christianity goes all the way back to righteous Abel, perhaps even before, thus making it at least some six thousand years old. This doomsday cult as you call it has been waiting and watching for the return of Jesus Christ since His elevation to the glory because that is where we all who are born again want to be. The finishing part of this hope is that according to what has been promised will be accomplished by there being an end of time.
    And this doesn't make it a doomsday cult (religion if you prefer) how? At the end of the day, Christianity has a strong doomsday myth, dressing it up in the idea of redemption and saviours doesn't change that.
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    The end of immoral welfare state, yea.

    I like the guy though. I do not agree, but he's not an idiot. He needs to work a little on appeareance though. It kills any credibility.
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