America?

[PhilipO'Hayda]

So in the next update do you think a bit of America Sould be in? it looks as do St.Brendan from Ireland and the Vikings have both been.

Possible link to Columbus
While the story is often assumed to be a religious allegory, there has been considerable discussion as to whether the legends are based on actual events, including speculation that the Isle of the Blessed was actually America. There is a St. Brendan Society that celebrates the belief that Brendan was the first European to reach America. Tim Severin demonstrated it is possible that a leather-clad boat such as the one described in the Navigatio could have reached North America.Some have alleged that Christopher Columbus relied on the manuscript "Navigatio sancti Brendani abbatis" that told of St. Brendan's travels across the Atlantic.It is well established that Columbus went to look for St. Brendan’s Isle when he discovered the West Indies.[citation needed] As a student of the University of Pavia, Columbus would have learned of Brendan’s voyage from the manuscripts brought there, seven hundred years previously, by Dugal, student and founder of the University of Pavia. On the eve of his great voyage in 1492 he wrote: “I am convinced that the terrestrial paradise is in the Island of Saint Brendan, which none can reach save by the Will of God.

The Norse colonization of the Americas began as early as the 10th century, when Norse sailors (often referred to as Vikings) explored and settled areas of the North Atlantic, including the northeastern fringes of North America.
While the Norse colony in Greenland lasted for almost 500 years, the continental North American settlements were small and did not develop into permanent colonies. While voyages, for example to fetch timber, are likely to have occurred for some time, there is no evidence of enduring Norse settlements on mainland North America

[smoesville]

It would be cool to have vikings in greenland/newfoundland. Also it would be cool to see them slaughtered by the natives. Is there any way to limit troop numbers on board ships, i have a feeling i asked that before but i think it would give a better representation of viking settlement in that area by limiting the amount of troops available.

[Heathen Storm]

It would be cool to have vikings in greenland/newfoundland. Also it would be cool to see them slaughtered by the natives. Is there any way to limit troop numbers on board ships, i have a feeling i asked that before but i think it would give a better representation of viking settlement in that area by limiting the amount of troops available.

No, it's not possible.
And I don't think it's a good idea. I think it would be a BETTER idea to focus on the greenland/america part, so have the map expand from Greenland and MAYBE iceland to maybe the lower part of canada or U.S?

[Merula]

No, it's not possible.
And I don't think it's a good idea. I think it would be a BETTER idea to focus on the greenland/america part, so have the map expand from Greenland and MAYBE iceland to maybe the lower part of canada or U.S?

I voted for america, but only for the area of vinland +greenland/ iceland. I definently do not think that the mod should include florida
Maybe the poll should be a bit more accurate? not just 'america (which includes TWO continents if you want to be technical) or NO america'

[worldsdead]

i like the 'idea' of america but it never works from a gaming standpoint. tech is for natives is usually low. cities can only get so big due to farming, sanitation, etc. (sorry villages, lol). also america turns game into race for the land to form economical powerhouse, which ai never seems to do, get, or understand.

more europe for viking raids on christians! i'd love to couqeuer rome or the byz's.

[PhilipO'Hayda]

i like the 'idea' of america but it never works from a gaming standpoint. tech is for natives is usually low. cities can only get so big due to farming, sanitation, etc. (sorry villages, lol). also america turns game into race for the land to form economical powerhouse, which ai never seems to do, get, or understand.

more europe for viking raids on christians! i'd love to couqeuer rome or the byz's.

good point. maybe it sould be made not worth it

[Merula]

i like the 'idea' of america but it never works from a gaming standpoint. tech is for natives is usually low. cities can only get so big due to farming, sanitation, etc. (sorry villages, lol). also america turns game into race for the land to form economical powerhouse, which ai never seems to do, get, or understand.

more europe for viking raids on christians! i'd love to couqeuer rome or the byz's.

But if it is only a bit of america, say, only the size of iceland (which vinland is abouts) then there would be none of this. Anyway, there really isnt much up there apart from natives and ice!! So thereore it would be less of a appealing place for the player.

I just came up with an idea though: What if we could make a script that causes a deadly storm/s to appear every turn over the passage to Vinland? Then the player runs the risk of their whole expedition being destroyed and stops them sending over whole legions of troops? IS THIS DOABLE??? because i believe it could work

[PhilipO'Hayda]

But if it is only a bit of america, say, only the size of iceland (which vinland is abouts) then there would be none of this. Anyway, there really isnt much up there apart from natives and ice!! So thereore it would be less of a appealing place for the player.

I just came up with an idea though: What if we could make a script that causes a deadly storm/s to appear every turn over the passage to Vinland? Then the player runs the risk of their whole expedition being destroyed and stops them sending over whole legions of troops? IS THIS DOABLE??? because i believe it could work

I don't know,but as alwas if you can do it yourslef and send it to danova. Then ya it can be done.

[smoesville]

I don't know if it's doable but in some mod, i forget what it was, there was a script to cause storms when a ship stayed in open sea for more then one turn.

[Morrowgan]

I voted for america. It would be nice.

[smoesville]

If the map could be extended without making the map smaller in scale then i'd like it in otherwise no, i like the scale as it is.

[Constantius]

I voted no, its really not that important, in my opinion. If the map was ever to extend, I would say east and south.

[joey6131986]

i would lOVE to be able to conquer ALL of north america with my viking army, if only there was enough room to add this on the map. After all, it is a game and not a historical representation of what really happened, so i would see nothing wrong with a viking settlement in florida/Fjorda

[Heathen Storm]

...Fjorda

[Aleksander the Average]

I voted no, its really not that important, in my opinion. If the map was ever to extend, I would say east and south.

agree.

[Himster]

Vikings also went to africa and the holy land and the middle of Russia, those places aren't included, America would be lowest in that list of places that should be available for vikings to explore.

[Lord Of The Bow]

i voted yes, to be honest the only thing that could possibly make this mod better is Native Americans. I have a degree in anthropology which i based around the native cultures and practices of Native Americans pre and post European influence and then how that influence effected there cultural construct and practices. if you guys need a hand with any thing around this topic i will be more then happy to help!!!

[WinsingtonIII]

I voted no, I would rather see the map extended east to include Sweden, Finland, and Novgorod (where vikings actually lived/had successful colonies with a large impact) than extended west to include the Americas (where there was never a successful Viking colony).

[PhilipO'Hayda]

I can say at this stage, peolpe do not want America

[WinsingtonIII]

I can say at this stage, peolpe do not want America

Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but for me it's just that every time I play a mod focused on Europe, I prefer the ones that do not include the Americas. Why? Because they are not wasting valuable faction, unit, and province slots that could be put to better use in Europe considering that is the focus of the mod. Obviously, if there were not these hardcoded limitations in the M2TW engine, it would be a different story.