A modder's guide to errors

[Kylan271]

#Skinner's errors?

I am sure I saw a thread for Skinner's Errors around,referencing to things like: visible lines down the face etc. Can't find it though..any clues?

[Korinthos Hoplites]

I'm getting a strange error. Something I had not seen before.

I have -show_err

When the game is loading I get a message from whatever unit is in a certain position, complaining about either its formations including stat_health, or missing attributes field. If I delete, edit or move the unit and put another one in its position, the error won't change.

I have edited descr_model_battle, EDU, descr_mount, descr_projectile_new, export_units, export_descr_unit_enums and export_descr_buildings.

However, this error only showed up after I started editing the last three plus some usual EDU editing.

Unit example:

type             east peltast
dictionary       east_peltast      ; Peltasts
category         infantry
class            light
voice_type       Light_1
soldier          persian_javelineer, 60, 0, 1
attributes       sea_faring, hide_improved_forest, hide_long_grass, can_sap, very_hardy
formation        1, 1, 1, 1, 5, square
stat_health      1, 0
stat_pri         12, 3, javelin, 70, 5, thrown, archery, piercing, spear, 25 ,1
stat_pri_attr    no
stat_sec         6, 3, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, sword, 25 ,0.5
stat_sec_attr    no
stat_pri_armour  4, 4, 6, flesh
stat_sec_armour  0, 0, flesh
stat_heat        0
stat_ground      0, 0, 0, 0
stat_mental      3, low, untrained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay  0
stat_food        60, 300
stat_cost        1, 180, 170, 20, 30, 180
ownership        pontus, armenia

[Squid]

What's the exact error and post the unit entry above the one that's complaining as well as the one that's being complained about and note which line is the relevant line number.

[Korinthos Hoplites]

Notepad++ was causing the error. It was messing up things when I copied text in a certain way. The problem was Notepad++ did't show how everything was messed. I had to open it with traditional notepad to find out.

[Squid]

I find that unlikely, I use notepad++ extensively and have never had a problem such as you describe. Notepad++ shows a lot more of what's in a file than notepad could ever hope to.

[Tiberius Caesar Augustus]

Welcome
I have a problem with the CTD that occurs when the conditions are fulfilled: 50 regions and the maintenance of the Emperor of Rome as
I wonder what might be causing this, the error occurs when a player win playing fraction romans_julii?

whether the reason could be the use of the conditions of victory "imperator"form Rome on the BI engine without Senate?

romans_julii
imperator
short_campaign outlive_factions

[Squid]

try replacing

romans_julii
imperator

with

romans_julii
hold_regions Rome
take_regions 50

This will of course not work unless you start a new campaign.
What mod are you playing that uses that victory condition but doesn't have a senate faction?

[Tiberius Caesar Augustus]

try replacing

romans_julii
imperator

with

romans_julii
hold_regions Rome
take_regions 50

This will of course not work unless you start a new campaign.
What mod are you playing that uses that victory condition but doesn't have a senate faction?

In my
Also I think also it was a mistake

[Gäiten]

@Map and regions (Invasio Barbarorum Ruina Roma V8 (WIP))

I got a very silly error, however game did not crash.

During the AI movement the game suddenly mixed up some regions. That happened after appr. 120 turns.
Settlement names and region names have not changed, but certain street connections are missing, you can build and recruit region-specific building and units, respectively, where they have never been intended to be possible.

For example, a region located in Central Asia (Kerman) is now in the region of Athen (but not vis-versa).

[Squid]

I don't know what you mean by street connections are missing, but messed up recruitment or buildings is a hidden_resource problem in EDB, the recruitment lines and building requirement lines are likely incorrect in some way.

[Gäiten]

I don't know what you mean by street connections are missing

The roads connecting neighborhood settlements.

I do not think that it is the Hidden_resources, they are properly done. The game moved the regions` parameter and neighborhoods. If you open the Trade&Income subscreen you can see that such a moved region has direct trade connection to regions those are not in direct neighborhood or even region who are located far away from the sea they have now sea trade.

[Aradan]

Could you post a screenshot of your map? Not that I have any clue as to what is wrong here (sounds like your map.rwm was changed while you were playing or something), but I'm really curious; never heard of anything similar before.

[Gäiten]

Here is the screenshot.
As you can see there are not any roads from Kerman and on the Trade Details there are trade connections to settlement which are far away. Even sea trade exists, although the Kerman region can not have a harbour.

I think you are right, somehow the rwm-file must have been corrupted during the game.

[Aradan]

Weird. Is this an older save-game continued with an edited map? I'd suggest you regenerate map.rwm and start a new campaign.

[Gäiten]

Weird. Is this an older save-game continued with an edited map?

No. Nothing regarding map changes happened. Just while gaming between two turns. The game is good for surprises, is not it?

[florin80]

No. Nothing regarding map changes happened. Just while gaming between two turns. The game is good for surprises, is not it?

One thing I`ve noticed is that sometimes certain roads tend to disappear when looking at them from a certain angle, but they`re still there and will reappear if you move the camera a bit. Are you sure this ain`t the case?

[Gäiten]

One thing I`ve noticed is that sometimes certain roads tend to disappear when looking at them from a certain angle, but they`re still there and will reappear if you move the camera a bit. Are you sure this ain`t the case?

Yes. These roads do not exist anymore.

It is. And this one of the weirdest errors I've ever seen. Regenerating map.rwm and a new campaign solved the issue, right?

Yes, it does. So far it only happened once.
Due that a question, does the game update/overwrite the rwm-file during the game? So far I have thought that file is fixed.

[Aradan]

Due that a question, does the game update/overwrite the rwm-file during the game? So far I have thought that file is fixed.

It is fixed.

[Aradan]

It is. And this one of the weirdest errors I've ever seen. Regenerating map.rwm and a new campaign solved the issue, right?

[Arphenion]

i have a problem, i play a custom battle, it loads perfectly, i play it, i win it or lose it, then, back to main menu, but when i start a 2nd custom battle, while loading, a CTD occurs, then, i run Rometw, load that 2nd custom battle again, but this time it loads perfectly. its weird, after the 2nd battle finishes i start another custom battle, and during the loading, it ctd again, and so on, so on. The second battle always CTD. and i have to run Rome again to load the same battle that caused the ctd,