A modder's guide to errors

[MasterOfNone]

Well, what was the last thing you modded that gave rise to the KTM?

[AngryTitusPullo]

Well, what was the last thing you modded that gave rise to the KTM?

Okay. I just remembered that earlier I have this type of error when adding 2extra level for ports (added warport & warharbour). Probably the port level were hardcoded to 3 levels only and I create another tree under name of naval_port which place the 2 extra ports entries.

This time around, I have the same error after adding units. My unit lists actually are p[retty bare as I deleted most of unused units and only let the initial ones.

I created seperate entries for auxilia buildings (unlike RTR's style which auxilia comes together with barracks for 3 levels each for each faction. I let the barracks level stays at 5.

It works before when I didn't add the units yet. Unfortunately I though I have save the copy with non unit listing but I actually didn't.

I might have deleted the resource for sugdian slav and bohporan on the top as I did not use it in any unit (also deleted in the DR file).

I added them back in but still the same result. I commented the unit but stull the same result. :hmmm:

;-----Mauretania-----
building hinterland_auxilia_r
{
    levels auxilia_phase1 auxilia_phase2 auxilia_phase3   
    {
        auxilia_phase1 requires factions { ostrogoths, } 
        {
            capability
            {
            }
            construction  2 
            cost  600 
            settlement_min town
            upgrades
            {
                auxilia_phase2
            }
        }
        auxilia_phase2 requires factions { ostrogoths, } 
        {
            capability
            {
            }
            construction  3 
            cost  1200 
            settlement_min large_town
            upgrades
            {
                auxilia_phase3
            }
        }
        auxilia_phase3 requires factions { ostrogoths, } 
        {
            capability
            {
            }
            construction  4 
            cost  2400 
            settlement_min city
            upgrades
            {
            }
        }
    }
    plugins 
    {
    }
}
;-----Infantry-----
building barracks
{
    levels muster_field militia_barracks city_barracks army_barracks royal_barracks 
    {
        muster_field requires factions { barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, hun, nomad, roman, } 
        {
            capability
            {
            }
            construction  2 
            cost  600 
            settlement_min town
            upgrades
            {
                militia_barracks
        city_barracks
            }
        }
        militia_barracks requires factions { barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, hun, nomad, roman, } 
        {
            capability
            {
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { lombardi, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_a auxilia_phase2 
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { romano_british, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_b auxilia_phase2 
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { berbers, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_c auxilia_phase2 
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { sarmatians, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_d auxilia_phase2 
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { roxolani, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_e auxilia_phase2 
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { celts, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_f auxilia_phase2 
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { saxons, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_g auxilia_phase2 
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { sassanids, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_h auxilia_phase2 
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { franks, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_i auxilia_phase2 
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { goths, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_j auxilia_phase2 
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { alemanni, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_k auxilia_phase2 
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { burgundii, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_l auxilia_phase2 
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { huns, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_n auxilia_phase2 
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { empire_east, empire_east_rebels, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_o auxilia_phase2 
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { vandals, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_p auxilia_phase2
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { slavs, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_q auxilia_phase2 
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { ostrogoths, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_r auxilia_phase2 
            }
            construction  4 
            cost  2400 
            settlement_min large_town
            upgrades
            {
                army_barracks
            }
        }
        city_barracks requires factions { barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, hun, nomad, roman, } 
        {
            capability
            {
        recruit "unit hastati" 0  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_m auxilia_phase2 
            }
            construction  4 
            cost  2400 
            settlement_min large_town
            upgrades
            {
                royal_barracks
            }
        }
        army_barracks requires factions { barbarian, eastern, hun, nomad, roman, } 
        {
            capability
            {
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { lombardi, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_a auxilia_phase2 
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { romano_british, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_b auxilia_phase2 
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { berbers, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_c auxilia_phase2 
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { sarmatians, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_d auxilia_phase2 
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { roxolani, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_e auxilia_phase2 
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { celts, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_f auxilia_phase2 
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { saxons, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_g auxilia_phase2 
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { sassanids, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_h auxilia_phase2 
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { franks, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_i auxilia_phase2 
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { goths, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_j auxilia_phase2 
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { alemanni, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_k auxilia_phase2 
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { burgundii, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_l auxilia_phase2 
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { huns, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_n auxilia_phase2 
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { empire_east, empire_east_rebels, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_o auxilia_phase2 
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { vandals, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_p auxilia_phase2
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { slavs, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_q auxilia_phase2 
        ;recruit "merc veteranii" 0  requires factions { ostrogoths, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_r auxilia_phase2 
            }
            construction  8 
            cost  9600 
            settlement_min city
            upgrades
            {
            }
        }
        royal_barracks requires factions { barbarian, eastern, hun, nomad, roman, } 
        {
            capability
            {
        recruit "unit hastati" 0  requires factions { empire_west, empire_west_rebels, } and hidden_resource unit_italy and building_present_min_level hinterland_auxilia_m auxilia_phase2 
            }
            construction  8 
            cost  9600 
            settlement_min city
            upgrades
            {
            }
        }
    }
    plugins 
    {
    }
} 

[ming1562]

hm...

[DaVinci]

No error-message ctd's, so to say 'hidden' errors, in example
-------------------------------------------------------------

1) data/text folder:
Files especially are export_buildings.txt or export_units.txt.
Game self-producable "ghost-typos" can appear for some strange reason, such as following in example

{large_stone_wa?*?ll_roman} Large Stone Wall

{large_stone_wall_roman_desc}
Large stone walls are substantial with strong towers and gatehouses. Even organised enemies will have a hard time scaling them or breaking into the city and will need time and specialised siege equipment to succeed. \n\nImproving the walls also adds grain stores to extend the time a settlement can resist a siege. The wall is, however, expensive and time consumin?*??¼?¯g to construct. Usually only prestigious or rich towns are worth protecting, they are monuments to the leaders who build them!

{large_stone_wall_roman_desc_short}
Large walls are substantial, and even organised enemies will have a hard time scaling them or breaking into the city

The messed up command-line in the clamps will lead to an instant ctd, while the game loads, while the messed up text behind the clamp-commands doesn't matter really.

2) data folder: capital/non-capital letters, in file descr_rebel_factions.txt, in example

rebel_type Anglo_Saxons //britons
category peasant_revolt
chance 2
description anglo_Saxons
unit early kings cavalry
unit feudal knights
unit mounted sergeants
unit archers
unit armoured spearmen
unit feudal sergeants
unit spearmen
unit peasants
unit saxon housecarls
unit saxon fyrdmen

While RTW normally hasn't problems with capital or not capital letters in nearly any codes, in this file the bold marked non-capital letter leads as well to an instant ctd while loading.
Well, those typos can happen very quick, if one is typing too fluently.
And you perhaps might never find this little annoying typo-bug, in the case you have modded before many files together, without testing every modded file separate.

So my recommendation: Modding one file, and then immediately test this file before you are going on to modding the next file.

[pwijnands]

CTD at turn end when a type exists in a trigger for a trait or ancillary. Doesn't show an error message

[catintheoven]

its all very well knowing you have a problem but then proof reading the text file is near impossible!!!! one simple mistake and it wont work as im learning at the moment, trying to change the faction possitions to this



ive changed the provinces to the factions I want,
them moved the armies using the new X + Y coordinates
ive checked and I cant see how its gone wrong, but it goes straight back to provincial campaign list

[Squid]

What message are you getting with -show_err when you exit? If you don't know to use -show_err make your target line in the shortcut into:

".../Rome - TW.exe" -show_err

Then when you go back to the menu after trying to start a campaign give rtw the three finger salute and you'll see the error message, if any, that appears.

Also how were you deciding on the co-ordinates? In RTW (0,0) on the map is the bottom left not the top right like in a graphics file.

[catintheoven]

What message are you getting with -show_err when you exit? If you don't know to use -show_err make your target line in the shortcut into:



Then when you go back to the menu after trying to start a campaign give rtw the three finger salute and you'll see the error message, if any, that appears.

Also how were you deciding on the co-ordinates? In RTW (0,0) on the map is the bottom left not the top right like in a graphics file.

I think I was attempting too much at once, I took my time and tested it continualy, took a few hours but I finnished it

I think it was just typos

Ive finished it now http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downl...o=file&id=1335

[Zephyrus]

Ok, 1 error I am getting is with descr_characters text. Its says it does not see something at line 220, column 1. What does this mean?

[makanyane]

could you write down or screen shot exactly what it says?

there are a couple of possibilities and that would make it easier to answer.

[bcc32788]

Can I have Spartan Hoplites in other city where isn't Sparta or other faction's best soldier except Rome

[dvk901]

One type of 'error' I have encountered three times......the first time, because I didn't know how to correct it, I had to completely rebuild my mod.

This 'error' is caused by excessive modding of 'export_descr_buildings.txt', and using either 'tab' key to get to a position in the file, or the space bar. Apparently, this file sees a 'tab' as an error....but will tolerate just so many of them. Once the tolerance level has been reached, the game will CTD before loading and generate no error message.

Using a program I had from the old Windows NT4.0 days, I was able to track the loading of the game and have a log file generated....and the one consistant error was a bit nocuous.....'unrecognized hidden_resource rome'.

It took me a will to figure out that this error isn't reported by the game because it just plain can't READ the file anymore.....it dies at 'hidden_resources'.

To fix this, acquire a text editor (lots of freeware ones) that will 'show hidden characters'. Then, (tediously) go thru the whole file and replace any tab characters (looks like this: >>) with a space bar char. (.....). Save the file and presto, game loads fine!

Oddly enough, 'descr_strat.txt' is just the opposite. It doesn't like space bar, so use tab key.

These two files are the only one's I know of that have any 'objection' to how you get places in the file.

[Rick_<3]

every time i start RTR i got the message:
script error: data/ecport_descr_unit.txt
attributes field is missing
r.210 column 1
but if i look there stands a complete attributes field, just like the other attributes fields(i checked it more than 10 times and even copy the attributes field of another unit to it)
does somebody know whats wrong with my game??

[Squid]

You're missing something in a line before that one, check the other lines for that unit to see what you've changed from before.

[Athkara]

I figure I'll post an error I've come across yesterday, involving placement and numbers of rivers apaprently in map_features.tga. I've never seen this error before, and have only been able to find 2 threads on it (both about M2):

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=106647
http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=97834

Basically, once I had apparently added 'too many' rivers to an area of the map (not sure if there is a correlation with the regions), the map would ctd when I scrolled over the area - sometimes when over the new river, sometimes even when 2 or 3 screens away. This problem goes away when I remove the 'bad' section of river - though there's nothing graphically wrong with it in map_features.tga.

After looking through the above threads, which mentioned adding more regions to solve this problem, I added 8 more regions to my map. However, then something strange happened; one river in the area of the new provinces began causing this scrolling ctd. Once again removing that river solved the problem (rather unsatisfactorally). The strange thing is that this river had been fine before I added the cities.

Anyways, I think this ctd should be added to the list for map scrolling ctds; it can be checked for by removing the rivers in area from map_features.tga and then adding them back one at a time to isolate the 'bad' river.

[Nero666]

I have encountered a CTD when modding descr_rebel_factions.txt. Basically I added a lot of units to one rebel faction (brigands). When playing the campaign, at first I got a CTD at end turn. The next time I tried there was no CTD (probably due to the chance factor involved in creating rebel armies on the map) and I got a show_err message saying there were too many units assigned to the brigands rebel faction. I haven't tested more but probably the max is 20 different units, like vanilla uses.

[Athkara]

I found a way to trigger the landmass ratio ctd, where no map.rwm generates, that doesn't involve changes to map_heights.tga:

I have a map (1021x1021) with a large area of continuous water that is nearing the point of the landmass ratio bug. (Not what I'm talking about, but something interesting: there is a land bridge between two islands which , if I remove triggers the land mass error - and there is also an area where if I add a land bridge between that island and the mainland, will cause the error.) Anyways, I am adding regions and filling in the rivers as I go along; but now I have reached a point where where I add a river to the newest batch of regions in map_features, I get the landmass ratio ctd -- no map.rwm generates!

It seems that the map_features rivers count as sea tiles instead of land, and thus affect the landmass ratio.


@ Nero666: I think the problem you have is that there is a limit to how many units can be recrutible in a single city, not how many units the faction has. I believe the game can only display something like 35 units in the recruitment window, and going over that in any one city causes a ctd (something like that...), and that the max units per faction is around 100 - iirc.

I do know that the faction unit limit is far greater than 20; unit numbers in mods like RS far exceed that.

[Faridus]

i've been playing with some files lately and trying to change some settlements ownerships. it seemed it worked fine, but when i quit the game, i get this error:



any idea what i did wrong and what i should fix?
thank you for your help.
actually when i looked at the EDB file at line 6317, column 3...it was the very end of the file...nothing special there...

[Athkara]

Well, it says the culture database and edb database don't match; so my guess is that you accedentally deleted the entry for huge city for the Roman culture in descr_cultures.txt -- and thus, as the report says, the culture database has large city is the max for Romans. I think.

[Faridus]

thank you athkara for your response,
i've been staring at the descr_cultures.txt file for hours, i still couldn't figure it out.

what i did is switch a faction from greek culture to a roman one.

so my guess is that you accedentally deleted the entry for huge city for the Roman culture in descr_cultures.txt -- and thus, as the report says, the culture database has large city is the max for Romans...

my descr_cultures.txt file shows both roman and greek cultures have huge cities. in fact when i switched factions, i didn't mess with that file, i only changed some data in descr_strat.txt. it shows my new faction in the right place with the roman culture just like i wanted it.

what puzzles me is the "script error in data/EDB, at line 6317, column 3"...when i go and look for that coordinate in the EDB file, i get to line 6317, but there is no lie 3...there is only line 2!!!