British pupils taught to carry out Sharia punishments

[Astor]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101122...hariaeducation

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LONDON (AFP) – Pupils at Islamic schools across Britain are being taught to chop off a criminal's hand and that Jews are conspiring to take over the world, a BBC investigation found Monday.
Up to 5,000 pupils aged between six and 18 are being taught Sharia law punishments using "weekend-school" text-books which claim those who do not believe in Islam will be subjected to "hellfire" in death.
A text book for 15-year-olds advises: "For thieves their hands will be cut off for a first offence, and their foot for a subsequent offence."
"The specified punishment of the thief is cutting off his right hand at the wrist. Then it is cauterised to prevent him from bleeding to death," it added.
Young pupils are warned that the punishment for engaging in homosexual acts is death by stoning, burning with fire or throwing off a cliff and that the "main goal" of the Jews is to "have control over the world and its resources."
The schools are part of the "Saudi Students Clubs and Schools in the UK and Ireland" organisation. The BBC investigation claimed that one school in London is owned by the Saudi government.
Education Minister Michael Gove told the BBC programme: "I have no desire or wish to intervene in the decisions that the Saudi government makes in its own education system.
"But I?m clear that we cannot have anti-Semitic material of any kind being used in English schools. Ofsted (Britain's education watchdog) will be reporting to me shortly."

[♔Goodguy1066♔]

EDIT: Okay you got rid of them.
Anyway, I think we're missing something. What school is this, which students use it, how widespread is it?

[removeduser_487563287433]

Let's use the actual source, shall we?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11808658

[Astor]

My net is slow today. What's the difference between the two? The text in the BBC says the same thing as the above.

[removeduser_487563287433]

It's never the same thing. Chinese Whispers happens in journalism.

[Poach]

Here's hoping Ofsted suggests a ban on the textbook and an investigation launched into such schools.

[removeduser_487563287433]

Here's hoping Ofsted suggests a ban on the textbook and an investigation launched into such schools.

Meh, they're not actually schools so I doubt Ofsted applies. It's a more straight-forward case of hate speech.

[husker9.2]

Here's hoping Ofsted suggests a ban on the textbook and an investigation launched into such schools.

Here's hoping Islam get's into the 21'st century and cuts the medieval bull ****.


If there is any truth behind this is there any wonder there is Islamaphobia in Europe right now.

[mongrel]

Here's hoping Islam get's into the 21'st century and cuts the medieval bull ****.


If there is any truth behind this is there any wonder there is Islamaphobia in Europe right now.

It doesn't require factually correct material to induce Islamophobia, as any fan of Pam Gellar knows.

[Poach]

Does Ofsted not have jurisdiction over weekend establishments such as this? The OP's article seems to quote Gove as saying Ofsted will be submitting a report on the issue to him.

[removeduser_487563287433]

Ofsted cannot prosecute. These textbooks will already be banned - so prosecution.

[Poach]

I know Ofsted doesn't prosecute, but the OP's article seems to imply that Ofsted has some responsibility here as it is the one compiling the report.

[Jom]

Quite a misleading title to say the least as this implies this sort of thing goes on in state schools. A private school may teach whatever it wants as long as it's within the bounds of the law, which I doubt that this sort of thing is as it probably falls foul of the "incitement to religious hatred" law. Still, this sort of thing should be stamped out wherever it's found.

[Gromovnik]

Quite a misleading title to say the least as this implies this sort of thing goes on in state schools.

What's misleading in the title " British pupils taught to carry out Sharia punishments"? Are they or are they not taught how to carry out sharia punishments?

[Jom]

What's misleading in the title " British pupils taught to carry out Sharia punishments"? Are they or are they not taught how to carry out sharia punishments?

The title implies some sort of state complicity; that this is going on in state schools.

[Gromovnik]

The title implies some sort of state complicity; that this is going on in state schools.

No it does not, the title is: " British pupils taught to carry out Sharia punishments". Where is the state in that sentence?

[mongrel]

No it does not, the title is: " British pupils taught to carry out Sharia punishments". Where is the state in that sentence?

It is a ridiculous title.


Surely Saudi judges carry out Sharia punishments not British kids. Throwing stones would be frowned upon by the health and safety police after all.

[Jom]

No it does not, the title is: " British pupils taught to carry out Sharia punishments". Where is the state in that sentence?

Generally, Gromovnik, the whole idea of implication is that what is being implied is not actually to be found in the sentence implying it.

[ivan_the_terrible]

"For thieves their hands will be cut off for a first offence, and their foot for a subsequent offence."

I wonder what gets cut off for the 5th offence.

[juvenus]

I wonder what gets cut off for the 5th offence.

Bravo!

Hate speech is illegal, so again, I don't think you have a point.

Absolutely true. But then, you say this:

The British state has a duty to protect its Jewish citizens and is absolutely right to act to stop this barbaric Saudi infiltration.

Designating one's influence of any sort as "barbaric" (regardless of your opinion of it) is a hate speech on its own.
Seems as if you're flirting with irony.