Suggestions for version 3.0

[rohan97]

gods and generals is that a gamme.
wel i want the gamme real and for that timme the used pistols whil mounted.

ant now wi talk about revolvers try the napoelon tw zulo mod
ther the revolver is in gamme

[SCCOJake]

I don't mean to provoke further discussion about it in the mod, but he does have a point about the kneeling. Dispite what the paintings, books and other media would have you believe, the soldiers of the civil war were not foolish enough to stand upright under a hail of fire. In letters to friends soldiers would talk about how they 'gallantly' stood up to the enemy, but in letters to wives and family they often talked about how they would all take cover until it was time to move or shoot.

Again, not an issue for the mod, but a point of more realistic historical accuracy.

If I had any issue with the cavalry it would be the shooting while mounted, I know they could do it, but I feel it would be a poor tactic for real cav troopers. I understand that they were more like mounted infantry, moving quickly to the field and then dismounting to fight. Unless they were running down troops with their sabers.

[rohan97]

yes i have books over a uinon lutenit

[Britabroad]

Rohan97 -
gods and generals is that a gamme.
wel i want the gamme real and for that timme the used pistols whil mounted.

ant now wi talk about revolvers try the napoelon tw zulo mod
ther the revolver is in gamme

1. Neither CSA or USA cavalry units used handguns as a matter of course. As said above, they were armed with carbine rifles and sabres. In some theatres they were also issued with handguns, but these were a "back-up" weapon only, and would only be useful at close range. Why use your pistol with an effective accuracy of 25m max when you can use a carbine with an effective range of 200m+ ?

2. The only CSA cavalry unit to prefer the use of handguns was the 43rd Virginia Cavalry battalion - commonly known as Mosby´s Rangers. They would arm themselves with up to four pistols. But these were not a conventional cavalry unit. They were Partisan Rangers who specialised in close quarter commando type raids behind enemy lines. The handgun suited their tactics better.

3. NTW is completely different to ETW. NTW can be modded to include revolvers - ETW (this Mod) cannot. Therefore, no revolvers.

4. We all like to see historically accuracy etc in mods. usually that´s why the mod is being developed in the first place. But there are always limitations and inacuracies. Modders will do as much as they can in this field. They want it historical, we all want it historical. But everyone knows, and accepts, that 100% accuracy is unatainable and compromise is necessary. Why not use your imagination a bit? After all, this is a game, not a Civil War re-enactors convention.

5. I feel it´s a bit rude to demand anything from a modding team. They do this work in their own time, unpaid, and are open to all sorts of petty criticisms by us folk on the forums. Some mods are excellent, but these have usually been developing over years. Some mods are hopeless, but have been made in good faith and have required a great deal of time and effort to produce. This mod, still under development, is young. However, the team are also striving for perfection and increased accuracy daily. 2.0 quickly followed by 2.1, 2.5 in the offing, 3.0 being developed as we speak. That´s not bad going for a relatively small modding team. So, if you want this, or any other game to be accurate to the point of boredom, may I suggest developing your own mod or finding another that is more to your liking.

ps yes, Gods and Generals is a great game. really accurate. And they have revolvers in that one. Why not ask for it at your local pc game shop?

[rohan97]

1. Neither CSA or USA cavalry units used handguns as a matter of course. As said above, they were armed with carbine rifles and sabres. In some theatres they were also issued with handguns, but these were a "back-up" weapon only, and would only be useful at close range. Why use your pistol with an effective accuracy of 25m max when you can use a carbine with an effective range of 200m+ ?

2. The only CSA cavalry unit to prefer the use of handguns was the 43rd Virginia Cavalry battalion - commonly known as Mosby´s Rangers. They would arm themselves with up to four pistols. But these were not a conventional cavalry unit. They were Partisan Rangers who specialised in close quarter commando type raids behind enemy lines. The handgun suited their tactics better.

3. NTW is completely different to ETW. NTW can be modded to include revolvers - ETW (this Mod) cannot. Therefore, no revolvers.

4. We all like to see historically accuracy etc in mods. usually that´s why the mod is being developed in the first place. But there are always limitations and inacuracies. Modders will do as much as they can in this field. They want it historical, we all want it historical. But everyone knows, and accepts, that 100% accuracy is unatainable and compromise is necessary. Why not use your imagination a bit? After all, this is a game, not a Civil War re-enactors convention.

5. I feel it´s a bit rude to demand anything from a modding team. They do this work in their own time, unpaid, and are open to all sorts of petty criticisms by us folk on the forums. Some mods are excellent, but these have usually been developing over years. Some mods are hopeless, but have been made in good faith and have required a great deal of time and effort to produce. This mod, still under development, is young. However, the team are also striving for perfection and increased accuracy daily. 2.0 quickly followed by 2.1, 2.5 in the offing, 3.0 being developed as we speak. That´s not bad going for a relatively small modding team. So, if you want this, or any other game to be accurate to the point of boredom, may I suggest developing your own mod or finding another that is more to your liking.

ps yes, Gods and Generals is a great game. really accurate. And they have revolvers in that one. Why not ask for it at your local pc game shop?

i have made my owen mod yes


you wanta test him
and i have found the revolver files

[Britabroad]

Well done.

[rohan97]

ones i have suceed wit revolvers i make the revolver mod

[Voice of Treason]

...There is no way ANY mod team can please EVERYONE...
...so, for those who want kneeling units...why not do it yourself?
...DBE 1.8...Unit to unit abilities...light infantry behaviour for units of choice... ???...

[shokh]

...There is no way ANY mod team can please EVERYONE...
...so, for those who want kneeling units...why not do it yourself?
...DBE 1.8...Unit to unit abilities...light infantry behaviour for units of choice... ???...

You are right. Such things can be done better as submod then as in the mainmod.
When 2.5 is released we will make a place for submods here in our forum.

[rohan97]

is the stone wal brigade the sime as 2.0 ore fist campain versions
these wer the realest units
of acw

[ss97slp]

i talked about light inf behaivor a little with shokh and there is a problem with the ai not doing things right. maybe will will take another stab at this for 3.0. there is a lot planned.

[rohan97]

i talked about light inf behaivor a little with shokh and there is a problem with the ai not doing things right. maybe will will take another stab at this for 3.0. there is a lot planned.

if think i ewven works in that mod

[Hinkel]

is the stone wal brigade the sime as 2.0 ore fist campain versions
these wer the realest units
of acw

What do you mean with that?
The Stonewall brigade is the same in 2.0, the same in 2.1 and is not touched in 2.5?
What do you mean with realist unit?

if think i ewven works in that mod

Light Inf behaviour made crashes, so we deleted it. You troops need to much time to deploy the ranks etc..
There will be some special skirmish units in 3.0, which can be placed infront of your troops.

So you have a line infantry with a 160yard enfield and you can place a skirmish unit with a shorter range, but better accuracte rifle in front of your infantry. But these skirmishers marches in light inf bahaviour and they kneel while fireing.

It will look like this:


X X X X X X (25 skirmishers)

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (200 line inf)
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

[rohan97]

What do you mean with that?
The Stonewall brigade is the same in 2.0, the same in 2.1 and is not touched in 2.5?
What do you mean with realist unit?



Light Inf behaviour made crashes, so we deleted it. You troops need to much time to deploy the ranks etc..
There will be some special skirmish units in 3.0, which can be placed infront of your troops.

So you have a line infantry with a 160yard enfield and you can place a skirmish unit with a shorter range, but better accuracte rifle in front of your infantry. But these skirmishers marches in light inf bahaviour and they kneel while fireing.

It will look like this:


X X X X X X (25 skirmishers)

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (200 line inf)
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

no the stone wal brigade was chanced in 2.1 imam sure

[Hinkel]

no the stone wal brigade was chanced in 2.1 imam sure

In which way? You have to tell me what do you mean exactly, so I can follow your problem. In which way are they changed?

[rohan97]

wronge namme it was the greys grigade

[rohan97]

the have in the fist versions
the have yello hoods and unifoms not only yello also gray hoods as unifoms

[Hinkel]

wronge namme it was the greys grigade

the have in the fist versions
the have yello hoods and unifoms not only yello also gray hoods as unifoms

Um, sorry dude.
But its totaly difficult to follow you, with such a spelling. I have no clou what you are talking about.
There was no greys brigade in 2.0 ... and nobody had yellow hats.
If english is not your native language, whats your home language?

[rohan97]

i have written this whit my cel phone
i mean the greggs brigade
the have a sand coller uniform and hats and caps and also gray uiforms no gray had yes

[Voice of Treason]

...any plans, at some point in the future, to base the ACW Negro Colored/54th units on the better African Slaver/Tribal Model in Empire rather than have the coloured over .dds files?...
...they would look fantastic based on the Negroid features from this model...
...(I have tried myself to improvise cut/paste the .dds from the 3 face .dds onto the your 4 face .dds but unfortunately, it is an exact science trying to transpose...and the faces still come out “pinched” because they are not over a negro model)...pic
...just thought I’d put this one “out there” for the Team to ponder...