Grenades?

[General Malaise]

Correct if I'm wrong but weren't grenades used quite extensively in this war? Just started playing the mod and noticed that it looks like no troops have any, which struck me as odd because it seems like they'd make a lot more sense in this mod than in vanilla NTW. Are they bugged or something?

[kenniston5]

Correct if I'm wrong but weren't grenades used quite extensively in this war? Just started playing the mod and noticed that it looks like no troops have any, which struck me as odd because it seems like they'd make a lot more sense in this mod than in vanilla NTW. Are they bugged or something?

I dont know if grenades would be a good weapon to use in this "mod",with this battle AI you would get cut down and your men would get killed before they had a chance to throw their grenades,just like the flamthrowers or cavalry(get cut down before they can attack).good idea but again not worth doing with this battle AI,you would just waste the men as they would be used for target practice..remember the firing rate is faster ten-fold in this mod compared to regular NTW mods and vanilla

[removeduser_23847628374234]

You could reskin the greneiders.

[Hakomar]

There are the saxon grenadiers for Germany, and I think alpenkorps also have grenades. Not sure about other countries, but I'm sure it's a similar setup.

[King Sama]

More units will have grenades in the update in update 5.0.

If you find statisitcs on grenade use or evidence of more widespread use and equipping of grenades to justify more units having them, then I'd be glad to take a look

[Piledriver2311]

More units will have grenades in the update in update 5.0.

If you find statisitcs on grenade use or evidence of more widespread use and equipping of grenades to justify more units having them, then I'd be glad to take a look

The British used "mill bombs" quite extensivley on machine gun posts. During the somme a private from ireland used 3 bombs, the first two to cover his approach to the post, the third completley wiped out the machine gun crew, saving the privates commrades.

Also, jam tin bombs were used by many armies. They were improvised grenades made from metal ration cans.

[BrotherSurplice]

During the somme a private from ireland used 3 bombs, the first two to cover his approach to the post, the third completley wiped out the machine gun crew, saving the privates commrades.

He won the Victoria Cross for that, and couldn't even read or write. He was forced to pawn it after the war to make ends meet

But yeah it would be really difficult for the NTW engine to do WW1 like grenade throwing

[Blist]

Dont know if this helps but i have looked through a ww1 book i own and found a page with some trench weapons, Including some information on grenades.

Here is some text from the book. (the book is in danish, so i google translated it and corrected some things myself.)

The hand-grenade - a hand-thrown bomb that explodes upon impact or timing - was used extensively by the Allies already during the Russo-Japanese war, yet it was only the German forces that to a greater extent took it into service in 1914. The British had almost none before the spring of 1915 and their first Mills Mark II hand-grenades often exploded in the hand of the thrower. It was only with the Mark III in 1916 that such accidents were reduced to one per. 20,000 throws. A total of 75,000,000 grenades were manufactured in Great Britain, and there was also invented a grenade launcher for the rifle, so you at a larger distance could launch the hand-grenade with it. The hand-grenades became so important that requisitions on hand-grenades had to be carried out before requisitions on rifle cartridges.

[Piledriver2311]

More units will have grenades in the update in update 5.0.

If you find statisitcs on grenade use or evidence of more widespread use and equipping of grenades to justify more units having them, then I'd be glad to take a look

Im currently reading a book about the Somme, British and German troops all used grenades. In the book theres alot of quotes, and journal entries from soldiers who fought. Grenades were always issued, trench or no trench, because if you were fighting in the open and you came upon a machinegun strong point you got your bombs and wiped them off the face of the earth. there were even special groups of men assigned to carry a large bag of bombs and bring them to the regiment that needed more. However, i haven't read much on the french, Italian, Russian, or American usage.

[raphael]

infiltration battalions have grenades

[Hakomar]

Whilst not the best source, I remember reading this:
http://www.firstworldwar.com/weaponry/grenades.htm

[RO Citizen]

Most units should have grenades, really, and their effect should rock

[BrotherSurplice]

Most units should have grenades, really, and their effect should rock

Indeed, i'm pretty sure that grenades became a big deal in WW1

[King Sama]

Guys, at this point we have a choice. Currently most "special" units have grenades. Next step would be elites, then regulars, and I'm not sure if in either the entire unit would be equipped with grenades.

['Gunny]

Well grenades were standard equipment, but I dont think there would be a way to make the soldier use it like an officer uses his pistol, occasionally throwing one on his own volation

[RO Citizen]

Well grenades were standard equipment, but I dont think there would be a way to make the soldier use it like an officer uses his pistol, occasionally throwing one on his own volation

But that would be hard, near impossible, for the NTW engine

[King Sama]

Well grenades were standard equipment, but I dont think there would be a way to make the soldier use it like an officer uses his pistol, occasionally throwing one on his own volation

Would be impossible I'm afraid

So every regular infantry soldier would have carried grenades? Or only inside the trenches?

[Piledriver2311]

Well grenades were standard equipment, but I dont think there would be a way to make the soldier use it like an officer uses his pistol, occasionally throwing one on his own volation

Speaking of which, Im assuming the mod team is going to reskin the officer's pistol to be a revolver or other type of period pistol?

['Gunny]

It was standard equipment, and I think everyone misunderstood me, the key word was don't

['Gunny]

Yea, at some point, would look a bit wierd to be stomping all ovre France with a hundred year old pistol