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Why do both white and black children prefer light skin?
http://thisweekinblackness.com/blog/...2010%E2%80%A6/
http://diversityinc.com/content/1757/article/1301/
Is there a genetic/evolutionary reason for this (like an adaptation to white privilege), or is it just due to social imprinting or some other non-biological cause? I am leaning towards thinking this indicates an effect of society rather than any genetic "predisposition to whiteness".
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Primicerius
Re: Why do both white and black children prefer light skin?
social.
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A Place of Greater Safety
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Open for discussion once more.
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Re: Why do both white and black children prefer light skin?
Completely social.
quaeri, si sapis
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Its because black people are the spawn of satan, and they recognise their white ubermensch superiors.
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Ordinarius
Re: Why do both white and black children prefer light skin?
To determine social vs genetic/evolutionary reasons, in part, similar tests would need to be concluded in different countries/regions, especially ones where blacks are seen as dominant (the majority, more well of, better represented in power/government, well represented in media/sports/movies), as whites generally are here.
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Dux Limitis
Re: Why do both white and black children prefer light skin?
Probably because the black kids have been exposed to Western aesthetic standards, you wouldn't get this with African tribes children who have never seen a white person in their life.
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Dux Limitis
Re: Why do both white and black children prefer light skin?
I've also heard of accounts of Africans bleaching their skin for beauty reasons.
Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.
Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.
Jajem ssoref is m'n korewE goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtompWer niks is, hot kawsones
Domesticus
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Any examples of this? It seems bizzare, considering how badly treated albino africans are in some countries.
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Dux Limitis
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http://articles.cnn.com/2007-11-26/h...y?_s=PM:HEALTH
It's indeed strange, seeing as the coloureds of South Africa are often considered social pariahs. It's probably greatest in countries without a significant white or mulatto community, who are traditionally loathed.Skin bleaching -- using chemical or natural products to lighten skin color -- is common practice in the Americas, Africa, across Asia, and increasingly, in Europe.
Psychologists say consumer demand can be traced to perceptions that lighter skinned or white people are more successful, intelligent and sexually desirable.
And as the UK's Asian, African and African-Caribbean communities grow, so too -- cosmetics industry experts say -- does ethnic spending power for products promoted to lighten skin tone.
Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.
Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.
Jajem ssoref is m'n korewE goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtompWer niks is, hot kawsones
Re: Why do both white and black children prefer light skin?
thye're not badly treated at all.
they kill them because they believe their remains are medicinal in some way...
Triggering
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"When I die, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like Fidel Castro, not screaming in terror, like his victims."
My shameful truth.
Dux Limitis
Re: Why do both white and black children prefer light skin?
There are places in Africa that think if you eat a mans eyes you gain his sight.
Swear filters are for sites run by immature children.
Re: Why do both white and black children prefer light skin?
they also believe if you rub vegetable oil on your it will make you invincible.
I heard a story about a guy who did this and then volunteered to be shot by an RPG. They explained his death by pointing out that a woman had cooked him food that day, and that apparently countered the magic.
yeah but that's just because you're used to blacker people being poorer and more likely to commit crime. If they weren't it would be different.
Comes Rei Militaris
Re: Why do both white and black children prefer light skin?
Strangely over in the East it is all about sun block and whitening cream. I've never looked into it properly but thinking it through I assume that poorer people spend all day out in the sun historically, probably in agriculture and get very tanned and weathered, very dark looking. The richer people wouldn't and thus would retain much fairer skin, so dark skin could become associated with poverty, fair skin with material wealth and aristocracy.
Comes Limitis
Re: Why do both white and black children prefer light skin?
Historian George Lipsitz ( read below) reminds of an interview that Richard Wright gave shortly after World War II in which he was asked about the “negro problem” facing America. Wright replied, “There isn’t any Negro problem; there is only a white problem.”
George Lipitz explains, in " Racialized Social Democracy and the "white" problem in American Studies". It's worth reading.
Excerpts
In fact, blacks -they simply might trust white people more. (insert irony here)The possessive investment in whiteness is not a simple matter of black and white; all racialized minority groups suffer from it, albeit to different degrees and different ways....the possessive investment in whiteness always emerges from a fused sensibility drawing on many sources at once - on antiblack racism to be sure, but also on the legacies of racialization left by federal, state, and local policies toward Native Americans, Asian Americans, Mexican Americans, and other groups designated by whites as "racially other."
"Americans...because they are ignorant of even the recent history of possessive investment in whiteness - generated by slavery and segregation but augmented by social democratic reform- American produced largely cultural explanations for structural problems...it fuels a discourse that demonizes people of color for being victimized by these changes, while hiding the privileges of whiteness by attributing them to family values, fatherhood, and foresight - rather than favoritism.
The demonization of black families in public discourse is particularly instructive in this regard...In 1986, white workers with high school diplomas earned three thousand dollars per year more than African Americans with the same education. Even when they had the same family structure as white workers, blacks found themselves more likely to be poor. Many recent popular and scholarly studies have explained clearly the causes for black economic decline over the past two decades.
Deindustrialization has decimated the infrastructure that formerly provided high-wage jobs and chances for upward mobility to black workers. A massive retreat from responsibility to enforce antidiscrimination laws at the highest levels of government has sanctioned pervasive overt and covert racial discrimination by bakers, realtors, and employers.
Yet public opinion polls conducted among white Americans display little recognition of these devastating changes. Seventy percent of whites in one poll said that African Americans "have the same opportunities to live a middle-class life as whites".
Optimism about the opportunities available to African Americans does not necessarily demonstrate ignorance of the dire conditions facing black communities, but, if not, it then indicates that many whites believe that black suffer deservedly, that they not take advantage of the opportunities offered to them. In the opinion polls, favorable assessments of black chances for success often accompanied extremely negative judgment about the abilities, work habits, and character of black people.
Triggering
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Yes of course its always racism. Damn whitey.
"When I die, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like Fidel Castro, not screaming in terror, like his victims."
My shameful truth.
Senator
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Yes, it is called social conditioning. What else would you call it when when the cultures are the same, and the same diplomas are met, that they earn $3000 less?
Smilies...the resort of those with a vacuous argument
Dux Limitis
Re: Why do both white and black children prefer light skin?
Yeah, I heard about that. For example, low caste Indians tend to have dark skin, and higher caste ones who are dark would have an interest in bleaching their skin for social reasons.
Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.
Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.
Jajem ssoref is m'n korewE goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtompWer niks is, hot kawsones
Comes Limitis
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What people say, testimonies: "I am a dark skin woman. It was very difficult growing up being dark skin because being dark was ugly. Then, it was "you are cute to be dark skin." As I have gotten older, I still go back to those days. When I was pregnant with my daughters, I prayed that they would be light so they wouldn't go through the teasing like I did"
As I said before, racism interiorized, and the interiorization of the white standard of beauty.
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Every human society must justify its inequalities: reasons must be found because, without them, the whole political and social edifice is in danger of collapsing”.
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