Settlement walls?

[Royale]

So im making my own adjustments to RTR 1.9 to improve game play like making poeni citizen infantry unit size from 40 to 60, upping costs on Macedon units, etc. but what if i deleted all walls except stone walls on capitals and made it so you couldn't construct them until you have level 5 or 6 cities? Does anyone have experience in doing this because i would like to know how the game goes like that so i don't have to do all those boring sieges..

[Clearchus of Sparta]

Make backup copies of the files in case it doesnt work

Then, first thing is to remove all the walls which are built when the game starts.

This is the descr_strat.txt file and you are looking for any lines which contain references to walls except for those regions you want to keep walled eg:-

 
 building
 {
  type defenses stone_wall
 }

Next you need to edit the export_descr_building.txt file

In our files, the stone wall is available at city level

 
        stone_wall requires factions { all, }
        {
            capability
            {
                wall_level 2
                tower_level 1
                gate_defences 1
                gate_strength 1
            }
            construction 10
            cost 96000
            settlement_min city

Change settlement_min city to settlement_min large_city
and now the stone wall cant be built until you have the large city

Save files after changes

Not sure if this is save game compatable and remember to delete you map files otherwise the changes wont show up

Hope this helps

[Caligula Caesar]

The one problem is that you'll still have to build the wooden walls before it. I think it is possible to exclude one wooden wall stage, but removing both caused a CTD iirc. You can do this by changing the upgrade from "wooden_wall" to "stone_wall" in the upgrades section of EDB.

[Clearchus of Sparta]

The one problem is that you'll still have to build the wooden walls before it. I think it is possible to exclude one wooden wall stage, but removing both caused a CTD iirc. You can do this by changing the upgrade from "wooden_wall" to "stone_wall" in the upgrades section of EDB.

Yes, I was trying to keep it simple(ish)

The alternative would be to place the required level of wall at each settlement (descr_strat.txt) and block further building/upgrades of walls in the edb (export_descr_building.txt)

replace stone_wall requires factions { all, }

with

stone_wall requires factions { all, } and requires hidden resource not_used

to prevent upgrading of walls

[Caligula Caesar]

In fact, if you do that on the first wall level (wooden_pallisade I think), you'll not be able to build any walls except for those already present ingame (that's what you want, right?). You may have to add "not_used" to the first line in the EDB, where all the hidden resources are used.

[Clearchus of Sparta]

In fact, if you do that on the first wall level (wooden_pallisade I think), you'll not be able to build any walls except for those already present ingame (that's what you want, right?).

If you did that, then if pre-placed defence is higher than the first level wall, you would be able to continue to upgrade them. Only the first level defence would be prevented from further upgrading.

You may have to add "not_used" to the first line in the EDB, where all the hidden resources are used.

Thats a bit misleading

[Caligula Caesar]

If you did that, then if pre-placed defence is higher than the first level wall, you would be able to continue to upgrade them. Only the first level defence would be prevented from further upgrading.

What I mean is that if you disable the construction of the first level, you will not be able to build that building tree unless you have it already ingame via descr_strat. Though on second thoughts, it would be best to add it to all levels.

Thats a bit misleading

What is misleading? IIRC, RTRPE doesn't use such a resource. Though obviously if it does, you don't need to add it again.

@Royale: The easiest way to go about finding the bug would be to first isolate which file it's in but first adding the new descr_strat then the new EDB. Btw, no other files need to be changed. Once you know which file is causing it, copy over parts of the new file onto the old file until you reach the CTD. Once you do, eliminate it. Job done

[Royale]

OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH i see. Bueno! thanks for the help guys

[Royale]

I like what CC said about not being able to build walls except those present in game. So i just add hidden resource not_used? How does this affect game play btw?

[Royale]

Ok nvm but i have one problem. i go delete the map.rwm file add not_used to the first line in EDB i added it in descr_regions and added it in EDB a second time (as required) on "wooden_pallisade requires factions { barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, parthia, egyptian, greek, roman, } and hidden resource not_used" and i try to start a campaign and it freezes for a few seconds while the game makes another map.rwm file then jumps back to the last menu to start the campaign. It wont let me start one so the alternative is that i had to go set the cost for the wooden palisade at 1000000000000 lol

its kinda irritating when i go through descr_strat deleting walls on most settlements for almost 30 minutes and making adjustments and then this happens..

help?