New home for the pope - your suggestions please

[vtec.dominion]

Hey comrades,

Im playing clean late campaign (VH/VH) with the Mighty Turks and just wondering what to do with the pope now
Once i removed Sicily from the Italy he obviously attacked me at Naples, so i paid his behaviour lessons and greatly weakened him, kicked him from Rome too obviously hehe. At the moment all he has is Pisa and 3-4 full stacks to defend.
It is a matter or two, max 3 turns and he will be done for good, so im thinking where I should send the bastard.

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Im allied with Poland, Moors and Mongols after giving them a headache.
At war with Papacy, Genoa, Kiev and Novogrod.

Moors are marching north like there is no tomorrow atm
They are stronger than Mongols by now.

I was thinking about blockading the Moors but he could not resist them prolly,
or lost the settlements due to unrest. Anyway, could try to fund him Zaragoza and Touluse. He is at war with France at the moment so there are chances he would go for them lol.

Another option is England, granting him a city and citadel there.
He could recover there and strike back hopefully.
Maybe Scandinavia ?

Hungary is not an option, they will attack me soon and i want to keep my units fit so they'll train their skills there.

What do you guys think, where he should find his second life ?

I just don't want him having a walk around Rome and every turn shot by Fari Cavalry unit LOL!

Looking forward your replies!

[stevietheconquer]

just give the pope Ankara!so he can play a little in the harum of the sultan!

[JorisofHolland]

We've had many, many threads about what to do with the Pope. Remote, distant places are the best option, or tiny little islands (in your case: perhaps Ireland or Götland?) are often mentioned.

[vtec.dominion]

I did some research through the threads. I will send him to Ireland or just put him in Zaragoza and let the Moors decide his future lol.

[princeps.omnis]

Definitely the Isle of Gotland. Let him freeze to death there.

[vtec.dominion]

Gotland is still rebel, so i would have to send my army there. Well i can probably buy a military access from Poland who are my allies, yeah, will try that!

[Merula]

Give him cyprus + money (or if you have beaten him up that much you wont have to give him much ), destroy all buildings on the island and kill the current pope (remember, the papacy can not be destroyed )and his armies that are still hanging around italy afterwards. Then just ceasefire again Cyprus is in the center of your empire so that will cause no problems for you in the future, also try and make him a vassal...

[princeps.omnis]

...destroy all buildings on the island...

Definitely this. And exterminate the town while you're at it. Heck, exterminate it twice.

This is when the depopulation thing would be cool (hint hint Gracul)

[bɑne]

This is when the depopulation thing would be cool (hint hint Gracul)

I read your "Destroyable walls and farms" suggestion but must have skipped the other with depopulation. Do you want a additional option or what exactly are you thinking of? Best I can think of atm would be a building with massive negative growth effect.

[princeps.omnis]

I read your "Destroyable walls and farms" suggestion but must have skipped the other with depopulation. Do you want a additional option or what exactly are you thinking of? Best I can think of atm would be a building with massive negative growth effect.

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Actually, i would implement it as a building(would take time to build, but once its up it would be auto-destroyed).
Available from small city+, would take like 2 turns to build and would cost a little and would give -1000 pop. The title would not be massacre tho, but 'population relocation'. If there would be any way of creating a blank gui button then i could implement a 1-click instant massacre thing, i wont use the advisor or ? buttons because it might interfere with BGR, so only the building fits.

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[bɑne]

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A valuable member Thanks for the link, I'll rep you when the 24h timer is gone.

[Cerrydwen]

You could also place him on Avignon(if you haven't do it before);there was a Pope in this town during Middle Age(and it belonged to the Papal States until the French Revolution),or in Armenia,which was officialy the first Christian state,somes decades before The Roman Empire.

[Chyeaaaa111]

Personally, I would put him either in the heart of the Moorish Empire or Mongol Empire. I always love when the pope is surrounded by Mulsim factions and gets hammered turn after turn.

[vtec.dominion]

Personally, I would put him either in the heart of the Moorish Empire or Mongol Empire. I always love when the pope is surrounded by Mulsim factions and gets hammered turn after turn.

Okay, it's done! I gave him Toulouse citadel
He is sandwitched between Moors and excommed France lol.

[beckyolt]

Thanks for the link, I'll rep you when the 24h timer is gone.

@Idea by beckyolt.

Imao, kidding

You could leave the pope in a Middle Eastern settlement, the further the better, and leave him rotting in the desert. =]

[vtec.dominion]

If i only knew where do the Timurids spawn i'd send the idiot there to see if he can handle them. Any idea where the Timur lands his armies ?

[JorisofHolland]

if I_CompareCounter timurids_konjikala = 1
            reposition_character Timur, 503, 128
            reposition_character Husayn, 504, 128
            reposition_character Umar_Shaykh, 504, 129
            reposition_character Miran, 504, 127
            reposition_character Batutai, 505, 130
            reposition_character Ghazatai, 505, 126
            reposition_character Irindhuk, 504, 95
            reposition_character Khuzuk, 505, 95
            reposition_character Mongatai, 505, 96
            reposition_character Ordai, 505, 94
            reposition_character Shidedai, 504, 83
            reposition_character Zhen_Jin, 505, 83
        end_if
        if I_CompareCounter timurids_yazd = 1
            reposition_character Timur, 503, 83
            reposition_character Husayn, 504, 83
            reposition_character Umar_Shaykh, 504, 84
            reposition_character Miran, 504, 82
            reposition_character Batutai, 505, 85
            reposition_character Ghazatai, 505, 81
            reposition_character Irindhuk, 504, 95
            reposition_character Khuzuk, 505, 96
            reposition_character Mongatai, 505, 94
            reposition_character Ordai, 504, 68
            reposition_character Shidedai, 505, 69
            reposition_character Zhen_Jin, 505, 67
        end_if
        if I_CompareCounter timurids_kerman = 1
            reposition_character Timur, 503, 68
            reposition_character Husayn, 504, 68
            reposition_character Umar_Shaykh, 504, 69
            reposition_character Miran, 504, 67
            reposition_character Batutai, 505, 70
            reposition_character Ghazatai, 506, 66
            reposition_character Irindhuk, 504, 83
            reposition_character Khuzuk, 505, 83
            reposition_character Mongatai, 505, 84
            reposition_character Ordai, 505, 82
            reposition_character Shidedai, 504, 95
            reposition_character Zhen_Jin, 505, 95
        end_if

Either konjikala, yazd or kerman.

[vtec.dominion]

Thanks Joris,

These are my settlements so i better defend on myself.
Only 12 stacks or these are the first wave ?

[JorisofHolland]

Thanks Joris,

These are my settlements so i better defend on myself.
Only 12 stacks or these are the first wave ?

Just the first wave. In the second wave there'll be six more.

[vtec.dominion]

Just the first wave. In the second wave there'll be six more.

Niceeee!! Thats the 30 stacks in total