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    An outspoken aide to Russian President Vladimir Putin has offered his resignation in protest against changes in government policy.
    Economic adviser Andrei Illarionov said
    Russia was no longer politically free but run by state corporations acting in their own interests.

    "I did not sign a contract with such a state," Mr Illarionov told reporters.
    He has been the most vocal critic in the corridors of Russian power for some time, our correspondent says.
    His remarks are seen by some experts as potentially embarrassing for Mr Putin, as Russia prepares to take over presidency of the G8 club of industrialised nations later this week.

    'Impossible to remain'
    "It is one thing to work in a country that is partly free. It is another thing when the political system has changed, and
    the country has stopped being free and democratic," Mr Illarionov told reporters in Moscow.

    He said that "therefore it is absolutely impossible to remain" in his post.
    Mr Illarionov added that Russia's economic policy and the economic model of the states had changed.
    He also said: "Until not long ago no-one put any limits on me expressing my point of view. Now the situation has changed."

    Mr Illarionov has recently criticised government economic policy with such gusto that he sounded more like the Kremlin's arch opponent than its employee, the BBC's Steve Rosenberg in Moscow says.
    A year ago, he condemned the Russian authorities attack on the giant Yukos as the swindle of the year, our correspondent says.
    The Kremlin took away some of his duties, like his role as Russia's representative to the G8, sidelining the respected economist.
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    I disagree with this guy: Russia was never politically free.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik
    I disagree with this guy: Russia was never politically free.

    nice one. It is a shame though I know some russians and their nice folks maybe a little hard headed and patriotic but thats what makes them russian. I just wonder what they could do with a decent government.
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    The Russian people have never had freedom. THey have lived in serfdom for hundreds of years, their current view of democracy is a sham and not much of an improvement over the past.

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    Russia was better under Krushchev...this according to a white Russian (I call him Asian) from Vladivostok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sephodwyrm
    Russia was better under Krushchev...this according to a white Russian (I call him Asian) from Vladivostok.
    I can believe it. If it wasn't for the fact that they were bleeding them selves dry trying to keep up with America, things could have been even better. I know that soviet communism came at a big cost, there is no doubt that without Stalin, Russia would have lost the war. Well, imho...

    One big problem for the Russians is that the change was too rapid - the result has been rampant capitalism that would fit in well with the Tsars.

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    Russia would of done well to do a China-style government and gradually shift to a democratic country. Quickly changing like that only causes problems when you dont have a democratic background.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanaric
    Russia would of done well to do a China-style government and gradually shift to a democratic country. Quickly changing like that only causes problems when you dont have a democratic background.
    Basically what Gorby wanted but he got put out of power by old style communists and then really by Yeltsin. Plus I wouldnt say China style yet until we see how China ends up, eventually China is going to face a crossroads of matching its economic power with political freedom and the jury on how that ends up is still out.

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    Time of (relative) freedom in Russia:
    The time of troubles 1600s
    The great time of troubles 1900s up to the revolution
    Kerenski's provisional government (had almost no authority, absolute freedom for some, control by warlords for others)
    Civil war (freedom at the expense of your life, family and property for some)
    The first thaw 1936-1937: contrary to popular belief, Stalin was not a monolith block with a sinle agenda throughout his entire reign.
    During this time hundreds of thousands of those deprived of rights were restored, and planning for a real election was underway. Stopped prematurely by the party (not anyone in particular, just a load of beaurocrats) despite resistance from some individuals
    The anti Stalinist coup: when Beria was deposed as head of government after the deat of Stalin, anarchy reigned for a little while
    Gorbachev's reign: the policies of glasnost and perestroika: freedom at the expense of our nation and our lifestyle.
    That's about it.
    Conclusion:all the times freedom we faced were followed by disaster soon after, or were themselves in a period of disaster.





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