No hastatii or principes?

**pokeytrev** · November 11, 2010, 07:34 PM

Just finished installing RSII, and I couldn't help but notice the absence of Hastatii or Principes. What's with that? When I went into battle, I clicked a unit on my front line and they voiced "Hastatii!," but, when I clicked on them again, I hear them yell "Principe!" So, what's going on here? Also, whats the deal with the weird measurement of years?

**Smokey Bacon** · November 11, 2010, 07:44 PM

Years are measured form the founding of Rome.

And I beleive the units are missing to show how the had essentially merged.

**Dramatic Cat** · November 11, 2010, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by pokeytrev

Just finished installing RSII, and I couldn't help but notice the absence of Hastatii or Principes. What's with that? When I went into battle, I clicked a unit on my front line and they voiced "Hastatii!," but, when I clicked on them again, I hear them yell "Principe!" So, what's going on here? Also, whats the deal with the weird measurement of years?

Try reading the unit descriptions.

It helps.

**The Doubtful Guest** · November 11, 2010, 09:10 PM

*Points up towards lolzillaXD!!!* Agreed. Right click on a Republican cohort and you shall find the answers you seek.

EDIT: And for the second part of your question, they had to do it to avoid a CTD. It basically is how many years have gone by since the founding of Rome. I'm not a big fan of it either but it had to be done.

**pokeytrev** · November 11, 2010, 10:13 PM

Makes sense. Thank you.
I must say that I am going to miss organizing my units so that the hastatii can warm the enemy up before pulling my hastatti back and sending in the principes....

**Dekker** · November 16, 2010, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by pokeytrev

Makes sense. Thank you.
I must say that I am going to miss organizing my units so that the hastatii can warm the enemy up before pulling my hastatti back and sending in the principes....

You can still split your formation into two lines.
Your more experienced troops = principes
Your new recruits = hastati

Except now you don't get the weird situation where experienced hastati are superior to the principes behind them.

**chris10** · November 16, 2010, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by Dekker

You can still split your formation into two lines.
Your more experienced troops = principes
Your new recruits = hastati

Except now you don't get the weird situation where experienced hastati are superior to the principes behind them.

True
I ever place my vets in the 2nd line to assure that the newbies get exp too.

**Chris Death** · November 12, 2010, 07:43 AM

I think it's only because you're used to that - see it as a chance to get through another learn phase
of how to organize your troops instead of going the 0815 way.

~S~ CD

**pokeytrev** · November 12, 2010, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by Chris Death

I think it's only because you're used to that - see it as a chance to get through another learn phase
of how to organize your troops instead of going the 0815 way.

~S~ CD

What do you mean by "0815?"

**Chris Death** · November 13, 2010, 02:27 AM

Originally Posted by pokeytrev

What do you mean by "0815?"

lol - sorry but i just noticed that 0815 seems to be something for german language only
at least wiki explained it to me having it's origin from a german machine gun or so.

It's a term being used in german and stands for 'ordinary' or 'usual'.

~S~ CD

**chris10** · November 16, 2010, 05:21 AM

Originally Posted by Chris Death

lol - sorry but i just noticed that 0815 seems to be something for german language only
at least wiki explained it to me having it's origin from a german machine gun or so.
It's a term being used in german and stands for 'ordinary' or 'usual'.

~S~ CD

Knew you where German..

**Chris Death** · November 16, 2010, 05:27 AM

Originally Posted by chris10

Knew you where German..

Well, actually Austrian

~S~ CD

**Beetlecat** · November 12, 2010, 07:59 PM

Yeah -- I miss them too, but I still divide my legions into two lines and rotate cohorts out when they get tired. It's surprisingly effective if you micromanage it enough. One could always use cheap local levy units as the front lines before sending in stronger ones.