Heirs of Charlemagne IH

[Marshy]

[Dan the Man]

I saw this! Good find, Herr Marshy!

[Prodigal]

Uh yea, the barbaros sucked. They kinda ruined everything that was good about Europe until the Italian and Northern Renaissances...

[Marshy]

Just thought the video would get everyone in the mood.

[Prodigal]

[Dan the Man]

Isn't this, like, 500 years AFTER this IH, Kaits?
The bias in it was so thick you could cut it with a knife, by the way.

[Prodigal]

If by bias you mean truth not skewed by the West, then yes.

History is so often written by the victor, true in this case as well. Thank God there are people like this to tell the truth.

[Dan the Man]

"Europeans calling themselves crusaders."
You can just feel the contempt.
I find that distinctly ironic though, considering we were all living on the same continent. Except that little scrap of Asia you managed to hold on to, of course.

[Prodigal]

Um, rightfully so.

Doge: "It is the will of God to attack Constantinople for money; burn its icons; steal the crown of thorns; dash the vials of Christ's blood on the floor; kill the Patriarch; install a prostitute as the new Patriarch of Constantinople; steal all of the holy relics and send them back to the west so petty lords can squabble between them and destroy and lose them; kill thousands of innocent Greeks, Armenians, Slavs, and all other inhabitants of Constantinople. Oh, and don't forget to steal its architectural marvels. OH, and don't forget to rape women in the Haghia Sophia, lay cows and donkeys on its holy altar, and slay them on it as their blood speckles the true cross before it is stolen and lost for all eternity."

Pope: "Hey that's cool, but I have to keep up a good image, BAD DOGE!" *slaps hand lightly*

Doge: "I set up this empire here Pope."

Pope: "Awesome, I'm going to forget that I condemned you and give you money and the full support of the Latin church!"

Unison: "Yay!"

That day was the biggest loss of culture, knowledge, and greatness in history. Please, pardon me for being a bit upset at this obviously hilarious matter.

[Watercress]

Consider, Kaits, that the Byzantines, prior to this, killed all the Venetians in the Italian Quarter of Constantinople, and barred all trade with them. That's the excuse they used.

[Dave Strider]

I found this about Charlemagne's age.

Charles the Hammer

['Gunny]

oh man, you need to update the op, was excited for celts
Ill take the Poles then

[c00ki3]

Burgundy please.

[Watercress]

...There's no Burgundy.

EDIT: Whoops, my mistake.

[Dan the Man]

oh man, you need to update the op, was excited for celts
Ill take the Poles then

You can take the Celts. Cels is retiring, so they aren't claimed anymore.

Doge: "It is the will of God to attack Constantinople for money; burn its icons; steal the crown of thorns; dash the vials of Christ's blood on the floor; kill the Patriarch; install a prostitute as the new Patriarch of Constantinople; steal all of the holy relics and send them back to the west so petty lords can squabble between them and destroy and lose them; kill thousands of innocent Greeks, Armenians, Slavs, and all other inhabitants of Constantinople. Oh, and don't forget to steal its architectural marvels. OH, and don't forget to rape women in the Haghia Sophia, lay cows and donkeys on its holy altar, and slay them on it as their blood speckles the true cross before it is stolen and lost for all eternity."

Pope: "Hey that's cool, but I have to keep up a good image, BAD DOGE!" *slaps hand lightly*

Doge: "I set up this empire here Pope."

Pope: "Awesome, I'm going to forget that I condemned you and give you money and the full support of the Latin church!"

Unison: "Yay!"

That day was the biggest loss of culture, knowledge, and greatness in history. Please, pardon me for being a bit upset at this obviously hilarious matter.

I also find it hilarious that you never seem to see Byzantium as ever having any fault in any matter whatsoever. The Westerners, as I'm quite sure you already see, were still suffering from the "kill it!" mentality of the dark-ages. This wasn't the renaissance yet! We made a mistake, a big mistake! But who won in the end? Who re-took the city! YOU! Please, stop complaining about something that happened 800 years ago that you can't do a thing to change.
I'm done debating this, I'm not ruining my thread with it.

['Gunny]

Celts it is

BTW: The Turks are the ones who won in the end

[Dan the Man]

But the Turks were an outside, non-Christian force. That's my point. Either way, I'm not debating this. Only you can prevent thread derailment!

[Dave Strider]

But the Turks were an outside, non-Christian force. That's my point. Either way, I'm not debating this. Only you can prevent thread derailment!

I....HAVE....THE POWEEEEERRRR!!!!!!!!........of thread un-derailment......

[Dan the Man]

Antiderailmentarianism

[Watercress]

Dan, my man, when's this show coming onto the road then?