Amphitheatre

[tudor93]

Ok, you all know you get "culture penalty" if you occupy a city and don't destroy the temples of a foreign god (for example if you are Gaul and you occupy a greek city with a temple of Athena constructed), so, I have a question, I'm playing the greeks, if I occupy one roman city that has an amphitheatre and I don't destroy it will my popularity (happiness) drop in that city because of "culture penalty" ? because you all know greeks can't build amphitheatre, they got that Odeon thing.

[Blatta Optima Maxima]

I think yes, because greeks are of "greek" culture, but the romans are of "roman" culture. The greek culture group consists of the GCS, macedon, TSE and thrace (Have not played in a long time, so thrace might as well be barbarians). The roman - from the Romans. Any building constructed by a different culture should cause the penalty, until upgraded (if possible) or demolished.

[tudor93]

Any building constructed by a different culture should cause the penalty, until upgraded (if possible) or demolished.

oooh, I noticed this thing just today even the barracks/practice range etc. cause that penalty if of another culture, thanks, I'll start demolishing

[Blatta Optima Maxima]

Erm... Where is my rep?
Joke (?)

[tudor93]

Erm... Where is my rep?
Joke (?)

oops, here you go mate

[shikaka]

The majority of the culture penalty comes from 2 buildings: the temple and the governor's building. For the rest the penalty is small.

If there are buildings which give a huge bonus (arena, secret police HQ, aquaduct, or university as barbarians) they - in my opinion - are worth keeping.
Especially keep the university as a barbarian, and keep the arena line as a non-roman!

[tudor93]

The majority of the culture penalty comes from 2 buildings: the temple and the governor's building. For the rest the penalty is small.

If there are buildings which give a huge bonus (arena, secret police HQ, aquaduct, or university as barbarians) they - in my opinion - are worth keeping.
Especially keep the university as a barbarian, and keep the arena line as a non-roman!

damn, I just demolished the Colisseum in Tarentum

[shikaka]

execution square +2 law
secret police HQ +3 law
secret police network +4 law

arena +1 happyness
amphiteather +2 happyness
coliseum +3 happyness
(plus daily games on demand )

odeon +1 happyiness
liceum +2 happyness
theater +3 happyness


These building cause like a few percent culture penalty (5?) so you may consider the higher level ones to stay.


The maximum culture penalty is -50% Public order, that is when _all_ buildings are of not your culture. The vast majority comes from the governors palace and the temple.

Try it:
- check culture penalty %
- destroy the odeon
- if the culture penalty is 10% lower, then it was a good decision

[Parzival2211]

Any structure built by a "foreign" culture gives culture penalty. Once you upgrade, e.g. barracks, it disappears. Religious buildings cannot be upgraded if they belong to a foreign culture simply because you cannot build them, that's the problem. Same if the top layer building has already been built.

[... where did it run?]

Shikaka ninja'd me.

One foreign building causes 5 percent culture panalty (I think). If foreign building grants 15 percent of public order then 15 - 5 = +10. So keep it.