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    Default Should Creationism be taught in schools?

    Simple title, if it could, should it be taught in schools? If it can be taught in schools, should we only teach Christian Creationism, or should we include all other major religions views on how we came to life?
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    Default Re: Should Creantionism be taught in schools?

    Yes but not in Science classes.
    You should teach whatever versions are the major religions in your country.
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    Why just the major religions in the country? Why not the major religions world-wide?
    Why religions, why not folklore?
    Why current religions? Why not the religions of the past?

    The variations boggle the mind.
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    Default Re: Should Creationism be taught in schools?

    Yes, but i don't think it would be allowed. to just teach the christian version, because it would seem we are favoring a religion or another.

    Quote Originally Posted by Plant View Post
    Why just the major religions in the country? Why not the major religions world-wide?
    Why religions, why not folklore?
    Why current religions? Why not the religions of the past?
    I mean by major religions, i mean major religions of the world such as Islam and Hinduism. Not just the country's major religions. As for religions of the past, they did teach me who the Greeks thought that created their world (Zeus, Posideon ect.)
    Last edited by Vanoi; November 02, 2010 at 11:10 AM.

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    Your question is loaded. You have not defined creationism, nor have you defined what you have meant by taught. Ordinarily, creationism is christian creationism as assocciated by media, and "taught" means taught as fact.
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    Default Re: Should Creationism be taught in schools?

    Assuming you mean taught as truth or...reality then no. Teach it in literature classes with Macbeth, Dante's Inferno. Or of course religious education.

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    Either teach them no religion or about all religions.




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    Default Re: Should Creationism be taught in schools?

    no

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    Only if it is a lesson on bad critical thinking. Otherwise no.



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    Default Re: Should Creationism be taught in schools?

    Not in science class, no.

    Maybe in a comparative religious studies class though. Creationists won't settle for that though, since they hate comparative religion. After all, if you've already taught a class about all the hundreds of religions humans have had, it's only a small step for kiddies to think "Maybe they're all crap". And we can't have that now can we...
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    Default Re: Should Creationism be taught in schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tankbuster View Post
    Not in science class, no.

    Maybe in a comparative religious studies class though. Creationists won't settle for that though, since they hate comparative religion. After all, if you've already taught a class about all the hundreds of religions humans have had, it's only a small step for kiddies to think "Maybe they're all crap". And we can't have that now can we...
    Thats ludicrous, but then again you come from Europe so maybe that passes for rational thinking where you are? I took comparative religion in highschool [it was an elective] and it did nothing but strengthen my faith and most peoples [of all faiths] as well.

    So yeah, while I'm obviously not a Creationist, your attempt to pin on Christians as somehow afraid of the course, as it will undermine our Golden monopoly, is crap. I'm not at all. Its enlightening to learn of other peoples faith, it strengthens your own when its explained and discussed, and I want it to be a compulsory course in all highschools, if not in grade eight elementary as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squiggle View Post
    Thats ludicrous, but then again you come from Europe so maybe that passes for rational thinking where you are? I took comparative religion in highschool [it was an elective] and it did nothing but strengthen my faith and most peoples [of all faiths] as well.

    So yeah, while I'm obviously not a Creationist, your attempt to pin on Christians as somehow afraid of the course, as it will undermine our Golden monopoly, is crap. I'm not at all. Its enlightening to learn of other peoples faith, it strengthens your own when its explained and discussed, and I want it to be a compulsory course in all highschools, if not in grade eight elementary as well.
    I honestly can't find any logic to knowing that there are thousands of other belief systems in which have existed thousands of other gods, none of which must exist somehow strengthens your belief?

    I suppose it could be considered strengthening your faith by simply ignoring the logics of it and deluding oneself into believing it makes sense.
    Also, I'm playing the racist card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squiggle View Post
    Thats ludicrous, but then again you come from Europe so maybe that passes for rational thinking where you are? I took comparative religion in highschool [it was an elective] and it did nothing but strengthen my faith and most peoples [of all faiths] as well.

    So yeah, while I'm obviously not a Creationist, your attempt to pin on Christians as somehow afraid of the course, as it will undermine our Golden monopoly, is crap. I'm not at all. Its enlightening to learn of other peoples faith, it strengthens your own when its explained and discussed, and I want it to be a compulsory course in all highschools, if not in grade eight elementary as well.
    Seriously? You are insulting a continent of people now? When you talk of other peoples faith, are you talking of your own faith or of other faiths? How do you react when met with a muslim full of faith in their own? Besides which the issue is at hand is whether the creation myth should be taught, not to be educated into the main beleifs of other religions.

    The history of evolution is not taught, as it will take up an entire book of its own. The science of the discworld series for instance takes three books just to describe the history of the scientific method. The history of the theory of evolution alone takes one book.
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    Default Re: Should Creationism be taught in schools?

    Only in religion class.
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    Default Re: Should Creationism be taught in schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by Himster View Post
    Only in religion class.
    Well we don't have religion class

    Although in my school years we learned more about islam then christianity.

    I feel that we should learn creationism as a quick footnote to explain certain mentality's of people (women are inferior belief)
    Not in science, but in history.
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    I would've vote for the 3rd option, but then in countries like Romania or America, Christian Creationism would be learned as good example and other religions as bad ones. So my vote is a big NO, any kind of religion shouldn't and mustn't be thought in schools
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    Default Re: Should Creationism be taught in schools?

    In religious studying class, yes. In science class, no because that is not science.
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    Only if they teach them about Xenu's volcano base as well, though it's not so much a base but a prison that contains his Thetan.
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    Default Re: Should Creationism be taught in schools?

    Comparative religion, in religious class. But if someone insists that Creationism (or ID) should be taught in science class, then science should be taught in religious class. For example, how do the tales told by religion match up with our scientific knowledge of the world, and say, how could it have been possible for Mary to become pregnant without losing her virginity.

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    Default Re: Should Creationism be taught in schools?

    No...in Public schools. What private schools teach well that's private. But anyone even a religious zealots should agree religious education should not occur on the public dime. There is a place for in 'Sunday School' (or it equivalents - I hope my meaning is clear even thought Sunday school implies Christianity).


    As for religions of the past, they did teach me who the Greeks thought that created their world
    Not very well since you got the wrong guys... and certainly most Greek thinkers of note on cosmology and such tented to dismiss the traditional creation stories anyway.
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