Ranking system

We had this conversation before about star rankings and I always said, "Rankings mean nothing" , so I thought perhaps instead of point rankings. Perhaps a system of Wins / losses ratio style.

Gathering of points from winning or losing is controversial. Anyone with time on their side will have the highest ranking.

its still the same problem with an unstable game. crashes screw up your ratio badly.

Yes, I think mabye it should be the amount of wins vs the amount of losses, but there is still the problem that you can just play 1 stars or new players and become the highest ranked.... I've given up on stars I had nine in empire and nine in ETW, but I lost 30K on both.....

i dont understand why ppl care anyways, its still just going to be a bunch of cheaters trying to show they are the best in the world at exploiting the game, like an old friend of mine, Thunderbird, who used to bring 13 swiss guards after the patch that maxed them to four per player. He would pull the plug, cheat and camp on Alpine pass with craploads of artillery. He also had 9 stars and an insanely large amount of playing time with his insanely large amount of wins to almost zero losses. losses were probly due to unexpected types of crashes.

I think there should be no sort of ranking system or even a kill/death ratio. They are just incentives for people to cheat. What they should have is a better lobby interface (like telling you what are the exact game setup options, not only some of them), a proper lobby chat, and a place to show peoples ping.

I just dont get why the lobby has to be so laggy. it wasnt in M2TW or RTW but its like uber lag in ETW and NTW. it makes the lobby chat pretty much just aggravating rather than fun.

Originally Posted by {GODS}Scipio_Africanus

I just dont get why the lobby has to be so laggy. it wasnt in M2TW or RTW but its like uber lag in ETW and NTW. it makes the lobby chat pretty much just aggravating rather than fun.

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The way the ranking system works in sc2 is pretty good.i would not expect the next totalwar game to have such a advanced system but there is a few things ca could learn from it.

Originally Posted by Achilleslastand

STEAM

Cue the ranting comments.
Steam has nothing to do with the lag, it's inefficient programming on CAs side.
If it were Steam's fault, other games would suffer from the same lag but they don't.
As another example for inefficient programming, go load a replay if you have more than 20... it takes like 5-10 seconds to display the files

Originally Posted by bushranger

The way the ranking system works in sc2 is pretty good.i would not expect the next totalwar game to have such a advanced system but there is a few things ca could learn from it.

Yeah I was going to bring up SC2s system which seems to work.
Does anyone know the details though? Because I have no idea.

Originally Posted by daniu

Cue the ranting comments.
Steam has nothing to do with the lag, it's inefficient programming on CAs side.
If it were Steam's fault, other games would suffer from the same lag but they don't.
As another example for inefficient programming, go load a replay if you have more than 20... it takes like 5-10 seconds to display the files


Yeah I was going to bring up SC2s system which seems to work.
Does anyone know the details though? Because I have no idea.

Not arguing with you about the inefficent programming but dosnt the lag in the chat and lobby fall on steam?

Originally Posted by Achilleslastand

Not arguing with you about the inefficent programming but dosnt the lag in the chat and lobby fall on steam?

Not directly.
I assume Steam provides a service you can use and it depends on you how you use it; CA doesn't use it properly because they don't have the experience.

steam can only take one form right.its difficult and a waste of time to tailor steam for every individual game.rather-its easier for the game makers to tailor their game to work properly with steam-the onus is on them therefore.so its difficult to blame steam, seeing as CA are ultimately the ones who know how to do the programming for their own game better (or so i hope) =S

You guys are talking about BattleNet right? The new battlenet is split among the different continents so its sort of frustrating but the ranking system is very good. One problem though is the fact that NTW has to be more stable for this to work to the full enjoyment or at least not punish you when it doesn't work properly; I.E. when you lose points for losing a match when the game crashes.

Originally Posted by Venset

I think there should be no sort of ranking system or even a kill/death ratio. They are just incentives for people to cheat. What they should have is a better lobby interface (like telling you what are the exact game setup options, not only some of them), a proper lobby chat, and a place to show peoples ping.

From my vast experiences, I have noticed that the lobby chat is made up of random rooms. As I type this replay I quickly loaded Napoleon Total War and checked some of the names . . .
"lol i love cock", "what a soft cock", etc, etc are just two of the many rude and offensive names made by randoms who are abusing this feature. Perhaps some sort of censoring feature needs to be implemented?

Originally Posted by bushranger

The way the ranking system works in sc2 is pretty good.i would not expect the next totalwar game to have such a advanced system but there is a few things ca could learn from it.

Pretty good? The Starcraft 2 leagues and ladders system is excellent! Unfortunately I think there is no way CA would ever implement such a thing. There are many problems including not enough people in the first place.

Originally Posted by {GODS}Scipio_Africanus

You guys are talking about BattleNet right? The new battlenet is split among the different continents so its sort of frustrating but the ranking system is very good. One problem though is the fact that NTW has to be more stable for this to work to the full enjoyment or at least not punish you when it doesn't work properly; I.E. when you lose points for losing a match when the game crashes.

If only Napoleon Total War was a game by Blizzard. There would be a leagues and ladders system as well as extensive modding tools and game updates. Starcraft 2 is constantly updated to ensure game balance.

Originally Posted by JuLiA GiLLaRD

From my vast experiences, I have noticed that the lobby chat is made up of random rooms. As I type this replay I quickly loaded Napoleon Total War and checked some of the names . . .
"lol i love cock", "what a soft cock", etc, etc are just two of the many rude and offensive names made by randoms who are abusing this feature. Perhaps some sort of censoring feature needs to be implemented?




Pretty good? The Starcraft 2 leagues and ladders system is excellent! Unfortunately I think there is no way CA would ever implement such a thing. There are many problems including not enough people in the first place.



If only Napoleon Total War was a game by Blizzard. There would be a leagues and ladders system as well as extensive modding tools and game updates. Starcraft 2 is constantly updated to ensure game balance.

Sadly none of these things will come to pass.
If you wanna know whats wrong with CA look no futher then their overlords{Sega}whos biggest claim to fame is sonic the hedgehog.
O well at least there not as bad as 2K games....

what is wrong with 2K games? lol

Haha you need to ask? Hmm lets see the mess that is Civ5,Mafia2,Bioshock,Stronghold 2. 2K games are in financial straits and are notorious for pushing games out the door in a unfinished state.

lol. i dont see a mess when i see reviews of civ5 and the other civ games made by them and they make good basketball games and bioshock is amazing, mafia1 was good if that was published by 2k and i havent played the other ones.

Originally Posted by {GODS}Scipio_Africanus

lol. i dont see a mess when i see reviews of civ5 and the other civ games made by them and they make good basketball games and bioshock is amazing, mafia1 was good if that was published by 2k and i havent played the other ones.

Reviewers{some not all}are given freebies and swag to influence a review. Just go to the offical 2K forums and look at all the dissatisfied people with Civ5 alone.
No movement or combat animations in multiplayer are a dealbreaker....add to this all the games bugs and just being unfinished and you have the makings of a dud.
Ive never seen a Civ game w/o a 200 page manual but lo and behold we are told "we are trying to save the trees" and not including a manual.
I could go on and on about them but you get the idea.

Well, my friends that have it havent complained lol. I DUNNO GAH T_T