If the british monarch failed to produce kids...

[Baron Thunder-ten-tronckh]

Although I understand that there are people 'in line to the throne', perhaps to the 20th degree or something, do you think that, if a future british monarch failed to produce kids, and therefore grew old and died without children/direct family (husband, and even perhaps direct brothers/sisters), that the british would lose faith in the monarchy and give it up?

I understand that there somepeople would be legitimately in line for the throne, but I have a slight feeling that the public might just think that the death of an immediate line is enough to signal the end. Not because the lack of children means the monarchy isn't great, but because part of the cultural tradition has just been lost, I suppose...

What do you think?

[Their Law]

Not sure to be honest, it would depend on who's in line to the throne in the event of no actual heir. The monarchy is still something that not many people in the UK want to see removed. Though I'd support on official transition of powers from the monarch to parliament instead of operating by convention. Whilst the Queen is still popular (or at least not hated) by most of public Charles is a different matter and i know some people would rather skip him altogether and go straight to William. Ultimately the British monarch only rules by popular consent and thus needs to be liked or at least not hated by the populace. So actual succession matters less than individual itself.

[Niles Crane]

There are still plenty of people who are part of the British Royal Family and in succession to the throne. The Duke of Gloucester - grandchild of George V - could happily take the throne. It would take a few deaths before it came to the Norwegian connections, but even so, it would only be a matter of a few generations before people grew accustomed to it.

[Frederich Barbarossa]

There are still plenty of people who are part of the British Royal Family and in succession to the throne. The Duke of Gloucester - grandchild of George V - could happily take the throne. It would take a few deaths before it came to the Norwegian connections, but even so, it would only be a matter of a few generations before people grew accustomed to it.

This is where civil war springs up or better defined as civil uprisings. Due to some nationalists not wanting to be ruled by a foreign king, they'd immediately find someone in line of succession to take the throne (A Brit).

[Theseus1234]

There's not going to be any problem with succession to the British crown anytime soon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_of...British_throne

[Vítor Gaspar]

There's not going to be any problem with succession to the British crown anytime soon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_of...British_throne

Were I a delusional serial killer and that would by my hit list just for the sake of craziness.

[Exarch]

at least there's a high chance nowadays of the royals marrying outside the ahem extended family,

[Stavroforos]

I think that some 1500 people need to conveniently die around the same time as Elizabeth.

[Helm]

If the Church of England is still around the monarchy would still be around, it's kind of a religious thing.

[Stavroforos]

If the Church of England is still around the monarchy would still be around, it's kind of a religious thing.

Both deserve to be euthanized.

[Yorkshireman]

Its determined by law laid down by parliament.

Act of settlement.

http://www.parliament.uk/documents/c...snpc-00683.pdf

[Baron Thunder-ten-tronckh]

So 3 people out of 7 managed to miss the point of my argument, even when I explicitly said that it wasn't a question on the legitimacy of any successors. So thanks for the irrelevant information. Thanks to Helm and Their Law, who actually answered the question..

I was more questioning the implications on the morale of the public, and their opinions on the purpose of the crown. Heriditary succession seems so natural, to direct progeny, and I think the change to non-direct family would kind of make the people notice the monarchy a bit more.

Then again, even just the death of the current queen, children or not, will make the public assess the crown. I do believe that people will keep the monarchy for some time.. I was wondering what you thought on the subject. Not necessarily what you know about 309 year old bills.

[Niles Crane]

So 3 people out of 7 managed to miss the point of my argument, even when I explicitly said that it wasn't a question on the legitimacy of any successors. So thanks for the irrelevant information. Thanks to Helm and Their Law, who actually answered the question..

I was more questioning the implications on the morale of the public, and their opinions on the purpose of the crown. Heriditary succession seems so natural, to direct progeny, and I think the change to non-direct family would kind of make the people notice the monarchy a bit more.

Then again, even just the death of the current queen, children or not, will make the public assess the crown. I do believe that people will keep the monarchy for some time.. I was wondering what you thought on the subject. Not necessarily what you know about 309 year old bills.

Did I not answer your question? If the Norwegian monarchy inherits the throne, then certainly, there will be a lessening of morale within the immediate timeframe, but that all passes within a few generations. I'm sure most British people weren't pleased with the first two Georges.

[Yorkshireman]

Then again, even just the death of the current queen, children or not, will make the public assess the crown. I do believe that people will keep the monarchy for some time.. I was wondering what you thought on the subject. Not necessarily what you know about 309 year old bills.

I can't answer with any certainty because my crystal ball is playing up today. Who knows what public attitudes are in the future but the monarchy has survived centuries and a civil war plus the abdication crisis of 1936 so I should imagine it will be around for some time to come.

And its still here because the British public don't wish to change it, thats the simple answer and does'nt every time theres a thread on the monarchy on this forum, which is about every month.

[Stavroforos]

I think when there's a system where people accept that some people because of their ancestry are naturally better than them and that they ought to have authority over them with no democratic means, that there will be little resistance to whoever may succeed the throne, as long as they're from the proper blue-blooded family.

[Exarch]

i wonder how the british tabloids would like it if a Royal Family Member converted to Islam

[Niles Crane]

i wonder how the british tabloids would like it if a Royal Family Member converted to Islam

Daily Mail would go berserk over it. Of course, they would be ruled out of the succession. I think the only person who is likely to do it is Prince Charles, given his openness to other religions. He may well get bored and realise he's likely to die before his mum anyway.

[Vizsla]

It is not possible to overestimate how much the British people hate politicians.
The thought of having one as our head of state is so utterly abhorrent that the vast majority of people would accept almost anything instead.
President Blair and his wife Cherie? Makes me feel physically sick.

[Hookah Smoking Caterpiller]

It is not possible to overestimate how much the British people hate politicians.
The thought of having one as our head of state is so utterly abhorrent that the vast majority of people would accept almost anything instead.
President Blair and his wife Cherie? Makes me feel physically sick.

You do realize it would be largely irrelevent, aside from a few constitutional changes. Also you are 2 PM's behind.

[Exarch]

Daily Mail would go berserk over it. Of course, they would be ruled out of the succession. I think the only person who is likely to do it is Prince Charles, given his openness to other religions. He may well get bored and realise he's likely to die before his mum anyway.

well there's some conspiracy theorists and dodi al fayed's dad who believe that dodi and diana were knocked off cuz diana was going to convert to islam and marry dodi, despite diana no longer being a Royal any more.