Kill the General, save the day. {Tips, Strategies}

[Mega Tortas de Bodemloze]

There's the Devil who haunts your nightmares and makes you fear the night. To those of you who would be rid of him tell your tales of victory or your tales of woe.........

Thread Goal: List ways to kill the opposing general, cuz some folks experience nightmares with this. Also a place to list great tales of victory and woe...



1. Mounted Javelins: I have found the easiest way to rid yourself of generals is by using mounted jav. units. Bait the general into chasing a unit then squre him like a pin cushion. If you catch him from behind his bodyguard evaporates like dry ice under the desert sun.

Mercenary availability: The Breton jav Cav Mercs can be hired in western Europe and the Prussian jav cav out of Palanga in the east.

2. Massed crossbows: If your playing an Italian faction focus your bolts on the general and have your spears ready to finish him off.

3. The Spear & AP Surprise fruit basket: Once pinned with spears have your supporting amour piercing units join the party. Mercenary Mace men excel in this roll. Guys with axes too...

4. Meneth's Modded & Mutated archers firing cannon balls {Caesar Clivus}

5.

bottlenecked gate and ballista trick. Get about 5-6 high defence units behind gate while defending a siege, have two ballista, one on each flank, about 2-3 wall sections from gate.... wait for enemy to smash open gate and "noob rush" the gate, set ballista to flaming ammo and let loose on that mother--- shut yo mouth!

6.

Weaken with HA or any missile units then correct charge with your best cavalry or your own General. If opposing general is not in melee you can line up so the side of your formation without your general in it hits the part of the formation where enemy general usually is at. Can get instand kill 1/5 of the time if done right. Maybe more often since its hard to do it correctly.

3 wheel charge... charge strongest armor cavalry frontally and pin general, charge from rear with 2nd cavalry, only stay until charge shock about to disappear then disengage at same time send 3rd cavalry unit on charge. Can sometimes kill all general and BG in 2 charges with minimal losses. If the general has high HP he might escape by himself or 1 BG and is easy to hunt down.

Lure general away with charge by smaller # general or missile cavalry- AI almost always will chase- trap in forest or in sea of spears/halberds.

Mass kill. Works best in early game when not many units available. Use 4-5 unit of peasant and just swarm general. Many will die but can wear out the general and finish off with your own general for little danger. Works best on rebel generals who have weird stack composition or blocking access to a nice city.

7. Lower the idiot on to PikesStakes laid by Longbowmen.{Ishan}





Tag, your it....

[Caesar Clivus]

4. Meneth's archers firing cannon balls

[Ichon]

Weaken with HA or any missile units then correct charge with your best cavalry or your own General. If opposing general is not in melee you can line up so the side of your formation without your general in it hits the part of the formation where enemy general usually is at. Can get instand kill 1/5 of the time if done right. Maybe more often since its hard to do it correctly.

3 wheel charge... charge strongest armor cavalry frontally and pin general, charge from rear with 2nd cavalry, only stay until charge shock about to disappear then disengage at same time send 3rd cavalry unit on charge. Can sometimes kill all general and BG in 2 charges with minimal losses. If the general has high HP he might escape by himself or 1 BG and is easy to hunt down.

Lure general away with charge by smaller # general or missile cavalry- AI almost always will chase- trap in forest or in sea of spears/halberds.

Mass kill. Works best in early game when not many units available. Use 4-5 unit of peasant and just swarm general. Many will die but can wear out the general and finish off with your own general for little danger. Works best on rebel generals who have weird stack composition or blocking access to a nice city.

[Meneth]

4. Meneth's archers firing cannon balls

I'm honored.

On-topic:
Javelins or crossbows from behind/the flank works great.
Shooting with javelins/crossbows while the enemy general is engaged with your infantry also works well, and due to the large size of the bodyguards, you won't hit your own units much.

[RabidSheepLegion]

bottlenecked gate and ballista trick. Get about 5-6 high defence units behind gate while defending a siege, have two ballista, one on each flank, about 2-3 wall sections from gate.... wait for enemy to smash open gate and "noob rush" the gate, set ballista to flaming ammo and let loose on that mother--- shut yo mouth!

[Ishan]

7. Lower the idiot on to PikesStakes laid by Longbowmen.

Edit
Yes i made a booboo.

[nhinhonhinho]

Year. Deploy stakes the easiest and most evil way
8.Greek fire

9.War Elephant

[Lugiahua]

1. spearmen + cavalry charge from flank/ rear
2. mass number javelinmen + spearmen (or anyone that holds the line)
3. boiling oil from gates...

[SirRobin]

Do we really need to share strategies on this?

The enemy general usually just charges straight into the spears and is killed, how about a thread with suggestions on how to kep him alive?

[Mega Tortas de Bodemloze]

Do we really need to share strategies on this?

The enemy general usually just charges straight into the spears and is killed, how about a thread with suggestions on how to kep him alive?

Do we really need to share strategies on this?

Life's full of shades of grey. What isn't your problem, could be someone else's...

how about a thread with suggestions on how to kep him alive?[/

Now that's a good idea.... My suggestion would be to send in a unit ahead of where your General is going to charge to soften things up. Horse or foot no matter, just another unit to help defuse the attention your general will get. Especially if he is one of the weaker{stat wise} generals....

[Rokiniz]

have lots of crosbows, and flank the general with some bait peasant infantry

[Medkirtys]

The only way to defeat SS 6.3 Byz general - auto_win

[Gogolometro]

None remembered, let him come to spears, than atack from flank with twohanders axes or swords.
In high campaign with horse archers and no melee, let him follow 1 unit of HA and fire arrows from behind with other one. When he turns to second HA, you torn the followed HA. Easy.
The most easy way to win is atack with your general. Work perfect if you are byzantine.

[Paladin94610]

The only way to defeat SS 6.3 Byz general - auto_win

Wrong. Croat Axes (or such two handed axes) do wonders against Athanati (greek bodyguard) and annihilate Scholarii in seconds if said units are not charged by those nasty barded horses.

[Mega Tortas de Bodemloze]

Originally Posted by Medkirtys
The only way to defeat SS 6.3 Byz general - auto_win

I did battle with one a couple of days ago, {early era, M/M, Gracul AI} and javileers really mopped the floor with him...

[JorisofHolland]

No one seems to realise how powerfull pikemen are.

I'm not sure when they become available in your roster, but in Flanders and the Netherlands you can hire them from 1300.

[Meneth]

Sure, Pikemen work great, but getting the enemy general to charge into them isn't always easy.

[JorisofHolland]

It is if you slowly approach him, whilst bombarding him with one or two units of missile (can be levy archers). The AI will often charge 'through' your pikemen (aim for your missile units) and get killed in the progress.

[Shoryn]

Lithuanian Horse Archers are deadly when it comes to enemy cavalry, including the general. Tested & Approved

[Om noml]

Against a crusader army, a whole stack of HA. I'm completely serious. It seriously helped me in me and my dads hotseat. Simply build as many HA as possible, generally around 8 are needed to kill him and inflict more casulties. On a crusader, killing the Ai's general destroys the entire army in a couple of turns.
I do believe my mamluks were all silver, and some were golds, by the end of the crusades.