My Gondorian finance worries and castles,towns.

[Jezza93]

My finance situation. I have 3 large armies,one at western Osgiliath which recently fought off a 3000 strong Orc army with their 1500 men and barely survived,Ballista's saved the city effectively, so that army is underhanded and I have no money to reinforce them.
I have Faramir at...that Island place North of Osgiliath with a large army of militia,they probably wouldnt last such an assault,I cant afford to replace the militia.
My third army led by Boromir is smaller but has the best units and is about to assault Isengard.
But after losing my Eastern provinces I cant afford these armies,Ive managed to stop falling into further debt at -6000 by raising taxes but am not making any more money.
How can I remedy this?


The Castles thing is that,I was wondering if it was possible for you to make more fitting castles for Osgiliath and Minus Tirith and Isengard,the only notable ones Ive fought at. Because they just dont seem right...

[menawati]

Just a few thoughts....

- make sure your capital city is always optimal for tax income (I think you need to set it to Linhir or Tarnost when you start the campaign)
- Boromir and Faramir are best used as governors imo not combat generals, use mounted generals for combat (Denethor is a good combat general and I think he starts with bad governor traits anyway)
- hold the line against Mordor at the bridge between the Osgiliaths until you can move up to Minus Morgul later, you don't need a full army for this as you are defending a bridge, just make sure you have some solid infantry to block the end of the bridge and archers using fire arrows to make the enemy rout as they cross
- I don't know how far into the campaign you are but you should not be concentrating on Isengard. You just don't have the resources to fight them as well as Harad and Mordor. A small army to help Rohan a bit might be possible.
- Harad should be your main first target because if you let them flourish you will see an endless stream of red stacks coming over the land bridge. A good tactic is to send an army by sea down to their big cities on the coast. Even if you can't hold them sacking them and selling off all the buildings will net you good money and slow Harad down.

[wohnzimmer]

I have Faramir at...that Island place North of Osgiliath with a large army of militia

You don't need them, just put one unit to the right side of the castle and Mordor can't cross the river. Same could be possible at the land bridge to Harad, but I'm not sure... never tried this.

[Mikail Mengsk]

Punching Isengard early on is the only way to help Rohan survive for a decent amount of turns. Otherwise you will have to spend much more forces to save the day later.

[Jezza93]

Well I decided I didnt have sufficient forces to take Isengard so I have boromir retreating to the South west territories,took out two 750 white hand armies on the way and only lost about 33 men between the two fights ,would have been 0 in one battle but my ballista's didnt stop firing soon enough,friendly fire.
But I didnt realise you could place armies at the bridge between the two Osgiliaths, so thanks for that.
Unforunately Care' Andros was attacked,4000 Orcs against my 1700 man force,300 of mine survived and 75 of them survived,was a very close battle but then a second force of 800 came and finished off my force .
However I havnt had any trouble from Harad thus far.
Good news though is that since I lost Care' Andros Im falling out of debt rather quickly

[[Tar]Naru33]

I don't understand... What difficulty you on? I have 3 armies (2 fully stacked and one half a stack). I have taken Cair Andros and one of Mordor's territories just up-right from Cair andros with Boromir. I have both osgliaths and one territory of Harad.

I am helping Rohan by keeping the evil crusading factions (mordor, Harad, and Rhun) from crossing the anduin; they trying to get to Edoras. How do Rhun get to Rohan? I want to cut them off as well so Rohan only needs to fight Isengard.

I am not strong economically (about 2000 a turn with 4000 in the coffers), but a long way from being poor.

I don't see how you even went into the red...

[Jezza93]

I don't understand... What difficulty you on? I have 3 armies (2 fully stacked and one half a stack). I have taken Cair Andros and one of Mordor's territories just up-right from Cair andros with Boromir. I have both osgliaths and one territory of Harad.

I am helping Rohan by keeping the evil crusading factions (mordor, Harad, and Rhun) from crossing the anduin; they trying to get to Edoras. How do Rhun get to Rohan? I want to cut them off as well so Rohan only needs to fight Isengard.

I am not strong economically (about 2000 a turn with 4000 in the coffers), but a long way from being poor.

I don't see how you even went into the red...

Neither do I because as soon as Care' Andros fell I was making money again,but oh well.

[Argeleb]

Have high garrisons only in Cair Andros and W. Osgiliath. Advance in Harad. Have little navy to keep Harad forces away from Fiefdoms.

Keep city garrisons only as high as free upkeep available

[Jezza93]

Well I restarted the campaign from about 15 turns earlier and did things different,so at the moment Care' Andros is safe from attackers. I have Faramir with a half stack guarding the bridge at Osgiliath and Boromir with a full army trapped in Eastern Osgiliath due to about 6 crusading evil armies who have it surrounded...but oddly not under siege.

[Freakwave]

The bridge between Cair Andros and Henneth Annun is another good place to keep Mordor at bay, since its the only place for miles to get to Minas Tirith fast. Two militia, two archers and a balista can make a half stack stop in their tracks. Highly preferred above city/castle defence. Another tactic that might be usefull is put upto the free upkeep into east osgiliath and your main stack in west so when mordor sieges your so very lightly defended city they are in for a nice surprise. Main reason is that you dont have to sally out and have one major force to attack with low reinforcements(east ogiliath in this case) that you have to manage and usually come from far away.

In the end its best to take Minas Morgul and Cirith Itil. To plug the hole completely. In the end i have lots more problems with Harad than with Mordor. I noticed that the two rebel settlements Tir Ethraid and Barad Harn dont get taken by Harad.
As is the city on the island. Is this intentional?

I made the mistake of taking Barad Harn and soon afterwards the red flood came in. Now i resorted to coastal raiding, it feels cheap but i get rich. Playing Gondor feels like keeping lots of balls in the air since Rohan needs help aswell And there are always things to be done but cant be for the moment or untill a later time.

I find it hard to build up as Gondor. For turns on end i need the cash for troops instead of buildings. My main bases are Minas Tirith and Dol Amroth. Which i think was a good choice. Its my first time as Gondor more tips are always welcome.