Needing some help.

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  1. TheFuzzy's Avatar

    TheFuzzy said:

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    Ok first off I just got nappy the other day or so and am extemely noob like at it (almost to the point of wanting to never play it again). Now from going from almost a demi god in etw (not a real god but there are other people on here ten fold better then me) and going to absolute grade horse crap is quite a demoralization. I asked for help on the official TW forums and only got a get a bunch of lights. Basically can you guys give me some tips and tricks for nappy. Thanks

    p.s. steam i.d. is FuzzyGaze if you want to hit me up for some practice matches.
     
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    rattue said:

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    Hi fuzzy my steam id is : http://steamcommunity.com/id/Rattue

    i will be happy to help out if you would like
     
  3. TheFuzzy's Avatar

    TheFuzzy said:

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    Hey thanks looking forward to overcome the crappy playing lol.
     
  4. Y@$!N's Avatar

    Y@$!N said:

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    to be honest, if you were good at etw, it shouldnt take too long to get to a similar level in ntw
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    TheFuzzy said:

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    Yea the first day I was wondering what I had gotten my self into but now I am starting to enjoy it pretty well.
     
  6. Y@$!N's Avatar

    Y@$!N said:

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    practice just makes perfect really.there is no better way to find your feet in a game than a few good matches a night.i can play you if you like. steam i.d. is http://steamcommunity.com/id/ya93sin
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    6StringShredder said:

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    I know how you feel.. When i transitioned into NTW i was getting handled by everyone.. Even now.. i havent played in so long im super rusty and a complete noob again.. But i got your ID. Ill add you
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  8. evulclown's Avatar

    evulclown said:

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    Apparently that's not your steam ID


    Cav are a lot more effective in NTW compared to empire:

    Speed and charge bonus are going to be your best friend in this regard and thus lancers are most peoples cav of choice. Because their charge bonus and speed is the best thing about lancers you want to charge them, pull back and recharge, preferably into the back or side of any units. Since you can't square once you're in melee overwhelming your opponents micro while using cav is the best option (Other cav have their pros and cons too and are a lot better than lancers in certain situations, the more you play the more you'll see).

    Rifles in a 1v1 against 100 range lights will lose here, simply because of cost and the amount of soldiers per unit. That's not to say that rifles don't have their uses but generally lights are your goto guys for skermishers. Stakes are handy not only to stop horse charges but also reduce bullets, it's the same for forests. But consider this might bog you down into being too defensive. Don't be afraid of pulling your lights away from a line unit that's attacking them, range is their advantage after all and don't just blob them in front of your army like some pre-battle mini fight like so many seem to do in ETW and NTW, try to be smart you want them to compliment your army.

    Obviously a lot has changed compared to empire:

    You need to take into consideration that only the front rank of troops fires in NTW, so have your line troops no deeper than 2 ranks as a general rule. The whole game is a lot more fast paced compared to empire too, the reload speeds, the fact that you don't need to wait for every uni to reload before your line can shoot. That means it's worth manovouring your units a lot more to get better firing arcs. Consider also there's a lot less ammo, some units are better delt with in melee. In fact meleeing is great, even head on if soldiers have already fired their guns, it's the perfect time to lay into them with melee troops which are great for disruption and causing chain routs.

    Generals play a much bigger role in NTW. Their inspire can swing a battle, and their overall moral influence can be the difference between your line troops breaking in an even fight or staying til the last man. However if your general dies, especially high star ones, you're entire army takes a massive moral drop and will likely chain rout if your opponent's aggressive. A lot of people don't bother with generals if they have a high moral army with guard units that inspire.

    Manoeuvring wins you the battle:

    For the love of god don't camp not only is it gay but vrs a good player it's not even a big challenge to own you. Don't just walk into people head on either as everyone seems to expect. Turn your opponents defenssive spot by walking round the side. More often than not people can't seem to cope with their opponent not attacking their front and will even refuse to actually turn their army to face you until it's too late resulting in their arty being lost along with their flanks being owned.

    At all times you want to cripple your opponents flanks, once you do that you're firing on his units sides and backs, and they'll topple like domino. Getting multiple units hitting one unit is an easy kill and you should aim to do that always.

    Likewise, don't be afraid of retreating or sacrificing a unit or 2 to make sure your army can fall back from a bad situation. If your flank is compromised, the last thing you want to do is sit there and wait for the inevitable. kyting's looked down on, but so long as you meet your opponent in the middle of the battlefield and don't just camp, it's perfectly acceptable to fall back to a position that suits you during fights.

    Be flexible or you're going to get owned:

    Stubbornly sticking to some "plan" makes you easy to beat. It's fine having a strategy idea, but if you can't adapt to your opponent and put together new plans on a whim, then you're going to get beaten by decent players. It's good if you're forcing your opponent to counter your moves though, that leaves you in control of the battle and adds more strain to his micromanagement.

    Arty wise:

    On flats cannons are great for moral killing as well as taking down generals and cavalry -- Also destroying houses, you're better off demolishing a house full of guards than wasting your men and time going into it melee style. Howies and unicorns are everyone's choice normally though, they have arced fire so can hide behind trees and hills. their explosive shots are pretty effective as well. horse arty are handy if you're an aggressive player though, they can keep up with your battle and won't bog you down into having to baby sit them in a defensive position -- Something that a lot of players end up doing, which makes them easy targets for flanking.


    There's certain countries you'll see used a lot:

    • France: They have the best guard unit in the game, old guards which also have a fear influence. Do not underestimate this, simply being near them can push a lot of units into deep red moral and someone pushing hard into your flank with old guard will ruin your day. They also have great selection of other guard units and "elite" line troops. Together with the best "standard" lancers and the best guard lancers ingame. They also have a great selection of arty and elite arty. They don't have any rifles though, are quite expensive and have average light infantry. someone playing France needs to be aggressive.
    • Prussia: They're pretty popular, basically because they're cheap and have the second best lights ingame. You can get quite a lot of guns for your money with prussia and while their moral isn't fantastic they can be overwhelming. Together with lancers and the choice of guards it's most peoples country of choice these days it seems.
    • Britain: Great selection of guard units, and their line is outstanding. If you want a decent infantry army, britain's your choice. They don't get lancers though but if you play it smart if cav vrs cav engagements you'll do fine. And their light and heavy cav are great for disruption.
    • Russia: Someone goes as russia = they did it for the unicorns, sadly. Russia played properly however can be pretty deadly. But most people play it like retards and try to camp with multiple unicorns. Yeah unicorns can piss on your parade if left to it, destroying cavalry. But their moral isn't fantastic, they have range on howitzers but in a 1v1 with both set up the howitzers would win. People end up spending all their money on unis and have nothing left for their infantry. Russian line's a bit of a joke in a shoot out, but if you have a downhill charge they will ruin most armies in a carefully thought out melee attack. Even the militia has a high charge bonus. They've got a wide selection of cavalry too, even very cheap meat shield lancers for disruption.


    This doesn't by far mean the other nations are crap or not worth choosing, personally I love Ottomans. They have a much broader range of units to choose from and if used properly they're devastating. You just need to get to know the units, know what influence terrain and modifiers have on the battlefield and use it all to your advantage.

    Take a look at comentators like:
    Pointman (http://www.youtube.com/user/ReflexCss)
    Risquard (http://www.youtube.com/user/RISQUARD)
    Synoptic (http://www.youtube.com/user/SynopticCam)

    To name a few You learn best by doing though, and losing vrs good players will be invaluble!



    Peoples micromanagement falls apart when you ruin their precious plan, take advantage of this. Make use of hot keys to arrange your units into separate chunks that can support each other so you don't fall under that problem. Basically get good at micromanagement, thinking on your feet and knowing how to use each unit and every bit of terrain to your advantage. Even if you like being defensive -- Get good at being aggressive so when the time comes you can effectivly drop the hammer on a weak spot. Most of all be flexible and adaptable....
     
  9. terminator acheron's Avatar

    terminator acheron said:

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    hey fuzzy cut and paste your Steam id here - so a few of us can add u - most here are excellent players

    im happy to help u M8
     
  10. TheFuzzy's Avatar

    TheFuzzy said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by terminator acheron View Post
    hey fuzzy cut and paste your Steam id here - so a few of us can add u - most here are excellent players

    im happy to help u M8

    I know Tyler said just to look on his list but just to save time steam I.d.= FuzzyGaze

    p.s. (if you don't come up with that try TheFuzz that's one of my other aliases and if neither of them come up then I don't want to be added at the moment lol.
     
  11. Tyler_the_Great said:

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    FuzzyGaze is on my friends list if you want to find him.
     
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    terminator acheron said:

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    OMG – LMAO
    You cant be serious – you have a more impressive friends list than I do – b4 you posted this your friends included carswell tyler scipio synoptic tbone daniu
    Sounds like a stitch up – you obviously played these guys in ETW – so you must have impressed them – given the style a couple of these guys like – u must aggressive and good with cav
    Hmmm – so you want to rage quit NTW after 8 hrs game time – lol
    This sounds like tylers evil mind working overtime to pawn some players under the pretense of you being a noob.
    Never the less im happy to play you when your free
     
  13. TheFuzzy's Avatar

    TheFuzzy said:

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    Lol no But I think its somewhat of what carswell said I am a good player but not an arrogant douche bag like some are.
     
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    TheFuzzy said:

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    Also I cant say anything more Tyler said to not say anything or else
     
  15. Tyler_the_Great said:

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    Quote Originally Posted by terminator acheron View Post
    This sounds like tylers evil mind working overtime to pawn some players under the pretense of you being a noob.

     
  16. peapd said:

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    Tyler, I lol'd

    ....lol
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    evulclown said:

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    And here I was trying to help you, haha
     
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    DunkFunk said:

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    personally your post evulclown needs its own thread and to be stuck up there for everyone to read.
    Never argue with an idiot;
    He'll drag you down to his level and beat you by experience.


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    terminator acheron said:

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    lol - well i cant wait to play you

    im a real noob at both etw and ntw - 2000 hrs etw and 600 ntw and i get more noobish every day
     
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    bushranger said:

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    This game is very unbalanced compared to empire so your builds might be a problem,so watch some youtube vids see what armys nearly everone uses,it will be france,prussia,GB,and the occasional ottoman melee rush builds,then copy them and use your empire skills,you will not go wrong.