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    India moans over cross-border terrorism as they are the most innocent nation of the world. Some big western countries believe on their propaganda as if they are the most truthful people of world, why? Are those Western countries idiot? no but because in the bloody game of international interests India is their ally. If we ask some westerners about a South-Asian country which is involved in state terrorism and whose army has relations with religious zealots, they would instantly say, "Pakistan", what if I say no there is another country and that is India;

    How Hindu extremists in India killed two birds with one stone;

    It has been a routine practice for past many years that whenever any terrorism incident occurred in India, the Indian leadership and investigation and intelligence services immediately blamed Pakistani intelligence service and Indian Muslims but the recent arrest of a serving officer of the Indian army and disclosures made by him have proved otherwise.
    If the interrogation of the arrested Indian army officer has absolved Pakistan of involvement in some of the terrorism incidents on the Indian soil on the one hand, it proved that extremism and terrorism is not specific to Muslims only but extremists and terrorists could also be found among followers of some other faiths.

    Indian Army Lieutenant Colonel PS Purohit procured the explosives used in the 2007 Samjhota Express train bombing and 2008 Malegaon blast, Indian police told a court in Nashik city on Saturday.
    Maharashtra police said the colonel had obtained 60 kilogrammes of the explosive from Jammu and Kashmir in 2006 according to a witness in the Malegaon blast case. The court remanded the colonel in police custody until November 18.

    Meanwhile, Hindu ascetic Sadhvi Pragya Singh and Lt Col Purohit tested negative in narco tests on direct involvement in the Samjhota Express bombing, but gave important clues about their clandestine network. The Mumbai Police ATS is now tracing two followers of Sadhvi and an Indore-based Hindu Jagran Manch that they believe are the ‘missing link’ in the Samjhota Express bombing, said a senior security official who is part of the investigations.

    The suitcases that were used to blow up three carriages of Samjhota Express were traced to Indore, which has emerged as a hub of clandestine activities of Hindu militant groups.

    Source: thenews.com.pk
    The investigation has revealed how confidence-building measures including train service between archrival India and Pakistan were sabotaged to achieve twin objectives of derailing the peace initiatives between the two countries and maligning the Indian Muslims.

    Mumbai Anti-Terrorist Squad has claimed that Lt Col Shrikant Purohit, who was arrested in connection with the Malegaon blast, was also involved with the 2007 Samjhauta blast.
    Quoting from the Narco analysis test of Purohit, ATS said to the Nashik court that the accused had used RDX to carry out the blast in which 68 people were killed.

    Putting an end to all speculation, the anti-terror branch of Mumbai Police said that Army RDX was used and not sourced from across the border.

    Purohit was in possession of about 60 kg of RDX way back in 2006, when he was posted in Deolali camp of Indian army 16 kilometres from Nashik. Out of 60 kg, he had used a portion in the Samjhauta blast. But what is intriguing is that the investigation agency has no clue about the remaining RDX.

    This theory came in sharp contrast with the earlier investigation of Samjhauta blast, in which, it was concluded that not RDX, instead, IED and some liquid chemicals were used.

    Meanwhile, the Nashik court has extended the police custody of Purohit till November 18 from November 15.

    Earlier, the Lt Colonel had said to the court that he was not ill treated by the ATS personnel as claimed by his family.
    My questions ;

    1. In existence of that Sharm el-Sheikh joint statement confessing Indian involvement in Blochistan, and in existence of such proof proving that Col. Prohit of Indian army didn't only carried out bomb blasts in Indian mosques, which killed many innocent people, but also attacked Samjhota express and killed many Pakistani tourists, what moral high ground does India hold to moan over "Pakistani supported terrorism"?

    2. Should India not be asked to control the Maoist insurgency, dangers to Indian nuclear installments, and to control cross-border terrorism in Pakistan (Blochistan) and state terrorism in Kashmir and to control and have look on extremist elements in Indian army, only because India is "The Western Partner" against China?

    Your thoughts.
    "I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Saviour of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today." 'The Genuine Islam,' Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936.Sir George Bernard Shaw

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    So their even. Get blown up or die from aids. Lose lose in that region.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angrychris View Post
    So their even. Get blown up or die from aids. Lose lose in that region.
    Or why not stop supporting the state terrorism in Kashmir and ask India to fulfill the promise in U.N. and have peace with us? Then trade, tourism etc. etc.
    "I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Saviour of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today." 'The Genuine Islam,' Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936.Sir George Bernard Shaw

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    I fear things in Kashmir are going to get worse before they get better..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandiera Rossa View Post
    I fear things in Kashmir are going to get worse before they get better..
    Only because of Kashmiri terrorists throwing stones made by Pakistan on peaceful Indian forces.
    "I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Saviour of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today." 'The Genuine Islam,' Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936.Sir George Bernard Shaw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poet View Post
    1. In existence of that Sharm el-Sheikh joint statement confessing Indian involvement in Blochistan, and in existence of such proof proving that Col. Prohit of Indian army didn't only carried out bomb blasts in Indian mosques, which killed many innocent people, but also attacked Samjhota express and killed many Pakistani tourists, what moral high ground does India hold to moan over "Pakistani supported terrorism"?

    2. Should India not be asked to control the Maoist insurgency, dangers to Indian nuclear installments, and to control cross-border terrorism in Pakistan (Blochistan) and state terrorism in Kashmir and to control and have look on extremist elements in Indian army, only because India is "The Western Partner" against China?

    Your thoughts.


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    Treasury Targets Al Qaida and Lashkar-E Tayyiba Networks in Pakistan

    WASHINGTON – The U.S. Department of the Treasury today targeted the support networks of al Qaida and Lashkar-e Tayyiba (LET) in Pakistan by designating four individuals, Fazeel-A-Tul Shaykh Abu Mohammed Ameen Al-Peshawari, Arif Qasmani, Mohammed Yahya Mujahid, and Nasir Javaid, under Executive Order 13224. The designated individuals have provided direct support to al Qaida and LET and have facilitated terrorist attacks, including the July 2006 train bombing in Mumbai, India.

    LET is a Pakistan-based terrorist group with links to Usama bin Ladin and the al Qaida network, and was designated pursuant to U.S. Executive Order 13224 on December 20,

    2001, and under UN Security Council Resolution 1267 on May 2, 2005. The U.S. Department of State named LET a Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO) on December 26, 2001.

    "The United States and the United Nations have both targeted these four individuals for supporting al Qaida and Lashkar-e Tayyiba," said OFAC Director Adam J. Szubin. "Threats to global security require a global response, and we are gratified to be standing shoulder to shoulder with the UN Security Council as we cut these terrorist supporters off from the international financial system."

    On June 29, 2009, Fazeel-A-Tul Shaykh Abu Mohammed Ameen Al-Peshawari, Arif Qasmani, and Mohammed Yahya Mujahid were added to the UN 1267 Sanctions Committee's Consolidated List of individuals and entities associated with Usama bin Laden, al Qaida, and the Taliban. All UN member states are obligated to freeze the funds and other assets of listed individuals and entities included on the 1267 Committee's Consolidated List and to apply other sanctions (travel ban and arms embargo). The United States implements its asset freeze through E.O. 13224, which blocks all property and interests in property of the designees that are in the United States or come within the United Statesor the control of U.S. persons.

    As of early 2008, Fazeel-A-Tul Shaykh Abu Mohammed Ameen Al-Peshawari (Ameen al-Peshawari) was providing assistance, including funding and recruits, to the al Qaida network. He has also provided funding and other resources to the Taliban, including explosive vests and other resources and actively facilitated the activities of anti-Coalition militants operating in Afghanistan by raising money in support of terrorist activities. In addition, he had begun a campaign to support militants in Pakistan. As of 2007, Ameen al-Peshawari was responsible for recruiting fighters and suicide bombers and for the acquisition of funds and equipment for militants in Afghanistan. Ameen al-Peshawari has also provided monetary compensation to families of fighters killed in Afghanistan and has been involved in anti-Coalition militia recruiting activities.

    Arif Qasmani is the chief coordinator for Lashkar-e Tayyiba's (LET) dealings with outside organizations and has provided significant support for LET terrorist operations. Qasmani has worked with LET to facilitate terrorist attacks, including the July 2006 train bombing in Mumbai, India, and the February 2007 Samjota Express bombing in Panipat, India. Qasmani conducted fundraising activities on behalf of LET in 2005 and utilized money that he received from Dawood Ibrahim, an Indian crime figure and terrorist supporter, to facilitate the July 2006 train bombing in Mumbai, India.

    Since 2001, Arif Qasmani has also provided financial and other support and services to al Qaida, including facilitating the movement of al Qaida leaders and personnel in and out of Afghanistan, the return of foreign fighters to their respective countries, and the provision of supplies and weapons. In return for Qasmani's support, al Qaida provided Qasmani with operatives to support the July 2006 train bombing in Mumbai, India, and the February 2007 Samjota Express bombing in Panipat, India. In 2005, Qasmani provided Taliban leaders with a safe haven and a means to smuggle personnel, equipment, and weapons into Afghanistan.

    Mohammed Yahya Mujahid is the head of the LET media department and has served as an LET media spokesman since at least mid-2001. In that capacity, Mujahid has issued statements to the press on behalf of LET on numerous occasions, including after the December 2001 LET attacks on the Indian Parliament, and following the November 2008 attacks in Mumbai, India. Mujahid's statements on behalf of LET have been reported by international news sources such as BBC News, the New York Times, the International Herald Tribune, and Asia Times Online. As of late 2007, Mujahid was influential among the LET central leadership.

    Nasir Javaid is an LET official involved in LET operations and has served as an LET commander in Pakistan. From 2001 to at least 2008, Nasir Javaid was also involved in LET military training. In mid-2001, Javaid assumed command of an LET training center in Pakistan.


    http://www.ustreas.gov/press/releases/tg192.htm

    My source is infinitely more reliable than yours. The US showed that it wasn't Col. Purohit (why do you keep misspelling it?) behind the attacks. Canard fail.

    Next time when aping me, try and do a good job. Seriously, I'm trying to follow your train of thought, and I would like to engage in a debate, but you just rant to entire time. I can't figure out a clear train of thought anywhere.

    Mmmkay pumkin?

    Still to answer your questions.

    1.) There are no real active terror camps in India. And we aren't destabilized at all to the level that Pakistan is.

    2.) mega run on. I can't figure out your point.
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    US's report cannot be deemed much reliable against India's own Police officials' statements saying that Purohit did this. Epic fail argument.
    "I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Saviour of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today." 'The Genuine Islam,' Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936.Sir George Bernard Shaw

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    Wait, so at this point it is more convenient to use Indian sources vs non Indian sources. Let me quote you from the other thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Poet View Post
    Independent body is "aaj kal" news too, don't give us on name of evidence, do you understand these words? I believe you can easily undertsand, "NON-INDIAN source".
    After that, I believe I will take my victory sip now thank you.

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    Oh and btw, you didn't respond to my other points, thus you tacitly agree to them. Ergo, your entire argument boils down to this issue. Once I disprove this, your entire thread, and your argument therein, is kaput.

    Wow that was waaay easier than I thought.
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    Anyone who has common sense would accept my point. Pakistan calling India bad, fine, but bring some non-Pakistani sources to prove India did something. Pakistan saying Pakistani bad, fine, if you are saying it, it must be true. Get it?
    "I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Saviour of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today." 'The Genuine Islam,' Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936.Sir George Bernard Shaw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poet View Post
    Anyone who has common sense would accept my point. Pakistan calling India bad, fine, but bring some non-Pakistani sources to prove India did something. Pakistan saying Pakistani bad, fine, if you are saying it, it must be true. Get it?
    No, sorry, but your command of the English language is barely passable. I don't 'get it', because I can't understand what you are writing. Try breaking your thoughts up into smaller more logical sentences.
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    No I wouldn't, because I claim understanding what I said is easy if one has a free unbiased mind and common sense.
    "I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Saviour of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today." 'The Genuine Islam,' Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936.Sir George Bernard Shaw

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    That statement is based on absolutely no fact, and is complete opinion.

    I repeat, I presented to you a more reputable source than yours-according to your own standards.

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    Independent body is "aaj kal" news too, don't give us on name of evidence, do you understand these words? I believe you can easily undertsand, "NON-INDIAN source".
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    I repeat;

    If Pakistan gives evidence against India based on Pakistani sources, I would not call that evidence according to my standard.

    If Pakistan gives evidence against itself, who would say that there is apprehension of bias?

    I denied Indian evidence against Pakistan as there was a big, huge possibility of it being a result of bias and hatred, but if an Indian source is alleging Indian Col. on base of statements by India's own police, how would that be biased?
    "I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Saviour of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today." 'The Genuine Islam,' Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936.Sir George Bernard Shaw

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    So let me ask you again. When here a couple of sources saying Pakistani agents were behind the attack.

    Indian source saying Pakistani agents behind attack-
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/I...ow/4126714.cms

    US source saying Pakistani agents behind attack-
    http://www.ustreas.gov/press/releases/tg192.htm

    vs. your 1 source saying that Indian Police claim Col. Purohit was behind the attack.

    here's your biggest flaw though. Do you care to look at the sources your article links. Let me do it for you.


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    It has been a routine practice for past many years that whenever any terrorism incident occurred in India, the Indian leadership and investigation and intelligence services immediately blamed Pakistani intelligence service and Indian Muslims but the recent arrest of a serving officer of the Indian army and disclosures made by him have proved otherwise.
    If the interrogation of the arrested Indian army officer has absolved Pakistan of involvement in some of the terrorism incidents on the Indian soil on the one hand, it proved that extremism and terrorism is not specific to Muslims only but extremists and terrorists could also be found among followers of some other faiths.

    Indian Army Lieutenant Colonel PS Purohit procured the explosives used in the 2007 Samjhota Express train bombing and 2008 Malegaon blast, Indian police told a court in Nashik city on Saturday.

    Maharashtra police said the colonel had obtained 60 kilogrammes of the explosive from Jammu and Kashmir in 2006 according to a witness in the Malegaon blast case. The court remanded the colonel in police custody until November 18.

    Meanwhile, Hindu ascetic Sadhvi Pragya Singh and Lt Col Purohit tested negative in narco tests on direct involvement in the Samjhota Express bombing, but gave important clues about their clandestine network. The Mumbai Police ATS is now tracing two followers of Sadhvi and an Indore-based Hindu Jagran Manch that they believe are the ‘missing link’ in the Samjhota Express bombing, said a senior security official who is part of the investigations.

    The suitcases that were used to blow up three carriages of Samjhota Express were traced to Indore, which has emerged as a hub of clandestine activities of Hindu militant groups.

    Source: thenews.com.pk


    According to your own logic, your source is invalid.

    Quote Originally Posted by Poet
    I repeat;

    If Pakistan gives evidence against India based on Pakistani sources, I would not call that evidence according to my standard.

    If Pakistan gives evidence against itself, who would say that there is apprehension of bias?

    I denied Indian evidence against Pakistan as there was a big, huge possibility of it being a result of bias and hatred, but if an Indian source is alleging Indian Col. on base of statements by India's own police, how would that be biased?
    So since when was http://www.thenews.com.pk an Indian source? This is news to me.

    . Anywho, as you refuse to post in the thread I made (asking for reasoned dialogue and debate), and as I completely destroyed you in your own thread dedicated to propaganda, I will enjoy my victory sip now. And on that note of my complete and utter victory, night.
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    Pakistan is in no position whatsoever to point any fingers at India when they're actively supporting insurgents in Afghanistan, and terrorist attacks on India. Pakistan is nothing more than a pseudo-ally for the western world and it will gladly backstab if it can get away with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holger Danske View Post
    Pakistan is in no position whatsoever to point any fingers at India when they're actively supporting insurgents in Afghanistan, and terrorist attacks on India. Pakistan is nothing more than a pseudo-ally for the western world and it will gladly backstab if it can get away with it.
    well apparently the Taliban are freedom fighters in Afghanistan but not freedom fighters in Pakistan
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    The power of Hindu extremists in India is a shame, India should be a secular country for everyone. Remember that Muslims are not the only minority in India, there are also Sikhs, Buddhists, Christians and Jains too. India call themselves the world's largest democracy, but whenever things go wrong for them someone in the government goes and organises a massacre (1984, Gujurat, Orissa etc).

    But as others said, Pakistan is in no position to point fingers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fishman View Post
    The power of Hindu extremists in India is a shame, India should be a secular country for everyone. Remember that Muslims are not the only minority in India, there are also Sikhs, Buddhists, Christians and Jains too. India call themselves the world's largest democracy, but whenever things go wrong for them someone in the government goes and organises a massacre (1984, Gujurat, Orissa etc).
    and the Babri Masjid verdict as well

    But as others said, Pakistan is in no position to point fingers.
    true they should look to their own problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babur View Post
    well apparently the Taliban are freedom fighters in Afghanistan but not freedom fighters in Pakistan


    Quote Originally Posted by The Fishman View Post
    The power of Hindu extremists in India is a shame, India should be a secular country for everyone. Remember that Muslims are not the only minority in India, there are also Sikhs, Buddhists, Christians and Jains too. India call themselves the world's largest democracy, but whenever things go wrong for them someone in the government goes and organises a massacre (1984, Gujurat, Orissa etc).

    But as others said, Pakistan is in no position to point fingers.
    the difference being that in India the people accused of such crimes, even from the majority community are brought to court and tried. sure, the court system is slow and plodding but there is at least no brownie points to be had for belonging to the majority community.

    in pakistan the terrorists are not only not tried, they are 'honoured' by the govt of pakistan. the mastermind of the mumbai attacks was addressing massive extremist rallies in lahore and karachi under police protection. this was after the UN security council declared his organisation as a terrorist organistation and US treasury impounded its assets. did I mention he was also invited to an iftaar party thrown by the pakistani prime minister ?

    p.s. it's not as if there is any country with a complete lack of nutjobs. India too is not unique in that respect.
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    the difference being that in India the people accused of such crimes, even from the majority community are brought to court and tried. sure, the court system is slow and plodding but there is at least no brownie points to be had for belonging to the majority community.
    Not really, hardly anybody has been prosecuted for those things. They just round up a couple of thugs from the streets, but these kind of crimes go right to the top. There is no such thing as communal violence. People don't just up sticks and murder, there needs to be an instigator. The police, the army, the politicians, they are all involved. The indian authorities have blood on their hands and they know it.
    "Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones."

    - Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor from 161 AD to 180 AD

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